Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[cambay411]

Ask Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones if PED's can make the difference between good and great.

[bradlee180]

Ask Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones if PED's can make the difference between good and great.

Boxing isn't baseball, $#!tbrains...

[cambay411]

Ask Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones if PED's can make the difference between good and great.

Ok could Holyfield have beat Bowe in there second fight without roids? Ask an ATG, Hoyfield, if roids mean the difference between good and great.

I love Holyfield but if you research there is some serious evidence against him.

[Mr140]

Yea camboy but your missing some points your self if Holyfeild was using steroids his whole career which is like a 26 year career and never tested positive for a fight. So if a guy that high profile was never caught in or before or after a fight then it does not really matter because if he can get away with it then everyone damn near can. I think most people today are on roids or other forums of it and have been for a long time. So when the top guys face one another it does not matter who using because good chance both are so who really cares.

[cambay411]

Yea camboy but your missing some points your self if Holyfeild was using steroids his whole career which is like a 26 year career and never tested positive for a fight. So if a guy that high profile was never caught in or before or after a fight then it does not really matter because if he can get away with it then everyone damn near can. I think most people today are on roids or other forums of it and have been for a long time. So when the top guys face one another it does not matter who using because good chance both are so who really cares.

I see that point but to say who really cares because everyone is on it is bad logic I believe.

I'll tell you why I care is because its cheating. What would the fighter have been without it. Take a smart fighter who is a journey men level fighter and give him roids and he could be a top contender.

Take a contender give him roids and all the sudden hes fighting in championship fights.

[cambay411]

If you give an athlete PED's its gonna take him up a couple levels just like if you take those PED's away its gonna bring them down a couple levels.

Take Barry Bonds 70 some home runs in a season and take that down to 60. Take a fighter who uses PED's SD victories and turn those into UD losses.

[bradlee180]

Take a smart fighter who is a journey men level fighter and give him roids and he could be a top contender.

No other way to say it, this is just absolute nonsense...

One of the main reasons that fighters use steroids is for fast recovery from injuries in an injury-plagued sport.

[cambay411]

Take a smart fighter who is a journey men level fighter and give him roids and he could be a top contender.

No other way to say it, this is just absolute nonsense...

One of the main reasons that fighters use steroids is for fast recovery from injuries in an injury-plagued sport.

A smart fighter who lacks athleticism will benefit from the strength, speed, endurance, reflex and etc boost than a fighter who is already gifted in those areas. That's why I said smart fighter.

Anyone, one of the main reasons that fighters use performance enhancing drugs is for the strength, speed and etc boost. Of course they use it for fast recovery too.