Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[Mr140]

Master in Tyson prime he could not prove he was better then Holyfeild or Lewis because he fought a lot of cans to be honest. I know hes your favorite fighter but in prime he lost to fucking Douglas. Yea he may of under trained but its no excuse he lost to a fighter he was a 40 1 favorite to win. As for the second Holyfeild fight Tyson was losing and looked for a way out he was mental weak fighter. Also for the juice thing been over it did Holyfeild test for it before or after the fight if not well shit he broke no rules. Tyson never fought a caliber of a Holyfeild or Lewis in his so called prime not even close to them in skill. Saying that master how can you say he was way better in prime when he beat jack shit really compared to Holyfeild, Lewis, Ali, and Foreman. I just don't understand the reasoning most other fighters who lost there big fights don't get amped as much not even close to it.

[cambay411]

Master in Tyson prime he could not prove he was better then Holyfeild or Lewis because he fought a lot of cans to be honest. I know hes your favorite fighter but in prime he lost to fucking Douglas. Yea he may of under trained but its no excuse he lost to a fighter he was a 40 1 favorite to win. As for the second Holyfeild fight Tyson was losing and looked for a way out he was mental weak fighter. Also for the juice thing been over it did Holyfeild test for it before or after the fight if not well shit he broke no rules. Tyson never fought a caliber of a Holyfeild or Lewis in his so called prime not even close to them in skill. Saying that master how can you say he was way better in prime when he beat jack shit really compared to Holyfeild, Lewis, Ali, and Foreman. I just don't understand the reasoning most other fighters who lost there big fights don't get amped as much not even close to it.

All big time boxers are fed fighters. Of course some like Holyfield have also taken, fought and conquered the big challenges.

But Tyson had 44 KO's, 23 or more in the first round. You cant just say "well it was against lower caliber fighters". All big time fighters have fought just as many lower caliber fighters and none have over 20 first round KO's.

Tyson was a killer. Albiet a mentally weak killer who was his own worste enemy.

Has for the second Holyfield fight, maybe he did just want a way out. The only one who truly knows is Tyson. But imo, the look in his eyes, combined with the shape he was in, he looked like a Tyson we had yet seen. And it was a shame what he did. That fight wasn't being dominated by Holyfield. He was winning yes but Tyson was also starting to land.

And as far as prison prolonging Tyson's career, it could have if he was smart. But he was not even close to being the same Tyson when he got out. We didn't see anything close to prime Tyson until Holyfield 2. Then after that he went down hill again.

[johnsebastianmiran]

I do not want to compare Mike to anyone at this point because it's been done to death but I will mention this as I have pointed out in the past, Mike was a high energy fighter and to delve even further these types need inspiration and once this inspiration is gone so is their skill level so Rooney on the plus side and Robbing Givens on the minus side and neither of them met in the middle.

[Master]

I wish Tyson did fight Holyfield back in 1989 when both had quick wins against Williams and Rodriguez.