Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[Beanflicker]

BTW Tyson never took PED

How do we know that?

[El Kabong]

OK so if the steroid debate is going to be opened up we might as well ask "Did Lennox Lewis use PEDs?" We do know for certain Tommy Morrison did and odds are Holyfield did, but what of other fighters in that era?

[IamInuit]

If all else fails bring up peds.

[El Kabong]

If all else fails bring up peds.

If someone is going to open that can of worms for Tyson then they should ask the same questions of Tyson's peers.

[IamInuit]

If all else fails bring up peds.

If someone is going to open that can of worms for Tyson then they should ask the same questions of Tyson's peers.

Exactly. I always assume everyone is using. That way it stays out of the discussion instead of being used selectively.

[Beanflicker]

Exactly. I always assume everyone is using. That way it stays out of the discussion instead of being used selectively.

Realistic way to look at it!

And PED's don't make a champion fighter. Holyfield got where he was to on the basis of his skill and heart. Steroids help for sure, but they can't tell you which punch to throw, which way to move, what strategy to use and make you able to take a punch.

Holyfield fuckin ruled!

[El Kabong]

James Toney used roids as a heavyweight and he looked like crap

[cambay411]

Exactly. I always assume everyone is using. That way it stays out of the discussion instead of being used selectively.

Realistic way to look at it!

And PED's don't make a champion fighter. Holyfield got where he was to on the basis of his skill and heart. Steroids help for sure, but they can't tell you which punch to throw, which way to move, what strategy to use and make you able to take a punch.

Holyfield fuckin ruled!

But PED's give a champion fighter an edge over a champion fighter who doesnt use them.

[Boxer4life]

BTW Tyson never took PED

How do we know that?

in a interview he said if he could do i tall over agian he wold take gowth homrone , it implies he didnt do it,and u know mike has a tendency to be brutally honest

[Boxer4life]

I am having a blast reading your guys responses, maybe we should change this thread to " Lets START the Mike Tyson debate....and steroids. "

[cambay411]

I am having a blast reading your guys responses, maybe we should change this thread to " Lets START the Mike Tyson debate....and steroids. "

lol or "Lets debate Mike Tyson and steroids endlessly with no clear conclusions on anything"

[IamInuit]

The title does appear a tad short sighted. In hindsight of course

[Beanflicker]

BTW Tyson never took PED

How do we know that?

in a interview he said if he could do i tall over agian he wold take gowth homrone , it implies he didnt do it,and u know mike has a tendency to be brutally honest

Well fuck, if Mike says he never did them I guess we'll have to take him at his word...

Mike is brutally honest about his life outside the ring, but he would never say anything that would tarnish his legacy as a boxer.

[Spicoli]

Mike strikes me as a guy who doesn't get hung up on legacy, ego tripping wise. Whatever ya think of him in the ring he's pretty layed back, at least now. He has respect for where he came from and who came before him.

[Beanflicker]

For sure, but you don't get cleared from something without question just by denying it.

I've heard Mike trash himself as a human being, but I've never heard him speak negatively about his boxing career in any way.