Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[Beanflicker]

if my gran took roids she would be a better boxer than she is

I don't know if it would make her a better boxer... she'd probably sprout some nice thick chest hair though!

[erics44]

if my gran took roids she would be a better boxer than she is

I don't know if it would make her a better boxer... she'd probably sprout some nice thick chest hair though!

actually better boxer is probably a bad way of saying it

my roided gran would batter my non roided gran

[Beanflicker]

my roided gran would batter my non roided gran

Not really. Steroids help you to better recover from workouts and use the food you eat to better service your body. If your granny shot up steroids without any training regimine or clean eating, she'd put on fat, her blood pressure and cholesterol would go through the roof and she'd be bloated from water retention.

They aren't the magic bullet that people think they are.

[erics44]

my roided gran would batter my non roided gran

Not really. Steroids help you to better recover from workouts and use the food you eat to better service your body. If your granny shot up steroids without any training regimine or clean eating, she'd put on fat, her blood pressure and cholesterol would go through the roof and she'd be bloated from water retention.

They aren't the magic bullet that people think they are.

naa man

if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle, perhaps only a few lbs if she didnt train correctly

steroids improve your performance

not training on steriods doesnt make you fat unless you eat more than normal, you might appear bigger because of water retention

colesterol, blood pressure, heart rate may all increase depending on her reaction

long term steroids arent a magic bullet unless you take them and approach it right, you dont automatically get bigger muscles unless you eat right and train right, whilst taking steroids tho you will be able to lift more

[Beanflicker]

if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle,

How did you reach that conclusion?

[Master]

When was Evander Holyfield’s prime?

[erics44]

if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle,

How did you reach that conclusion?

its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

see how much more you can lift

[Beanflicker]

its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

see how much more you can lift

I've never seen any science or even any first-hand info from roid users that would support that.

Taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, it's not going to help you.

[cambay411]

my roided gran would batter my non roided gran

Not really. Steroids help you to better recover from workouts and use the food you eat to better service your body. If your granny shot up steroids without any training regimine or clean eating, she'd put on fat, her blood pressure and cholesterol would go through the roof and she'd be bloated from water retention.

They aren't the magic bullet that people think they are.

Here energy levels, endurance and intensity would increase, allowing her to immediately batter her old self with one dose.

[Beanflicker]

Here energy levels, endurance and intensity would increase.

How do you figure that would happen without training, mate?

[cambay411]

Here energy levels, endurance and intensity would increase.

How do you figure that would happen without training, mate?

Because thats what it does. Ask a user. They take it right before a work out to get pumped and work out longer.

[Beanflicker]

Because thats what it does. Ask a user. They take it right before a work out to get pumped and work out longer.

The key phrase is "before a work out"... because they don't offer any benefits if you aren't training. That was my only point: it's not like you just inject steroids, do nothing and they do great things for you. They are just a tool to help you get more out of workouts.