The Economic Crisis (The Fall of America & the Western World)

[brocktonblockbust]

Kirk,

Do you think there is a bond bubble? If so do you think it is a "bubble bubble"?

no question the BOND MARKET IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE IN BLACK FLAMES OF HATRED

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirk,

Do you think there is a bond bubble? If so do you think it is a "bubble bubble"?

no question the BOND MARKET IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE IN BLACK FLAMES OF HATRED

Which bond market? All bonds of just US bonds? And why?

[Kirkland Laing]

Sorry for all the typos btw. I need to start reading these things before I post them.

[brocktonblockbust]

Kirk,

Do you think there is a bond bubble? If so do you think it is a "bubble bubble"?

no question the BOND MARKET IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE IN BLACK FLAMES OF HATRED

Which bond market? All bonds of just US bonds? And why?

US bonds are inflated with phantom money printed out of thin air, backed by nothing. The Fed printed or "created" 26 trillion dollars worth of fake money then bought up its own bonds at the Treasury. US dollars are each worth less than ever. The Weimar Republic as well as Hungary did this same desperate thing with catastrophic results. Printing money to bail out failing assholes only saturates the economy with cheap money and destroys the currency. ANY BONDS DENOMINATED IN THAT CURRENCY ARE WORTHLESS PIECES OF SHIT. US Bond Market will collapse----CHina Japan and the Gulf central banks are no longer willing to buy US dollar denominated bonds because they know what the fuck is going on. The US dollar is fucking toast----worthless shit. It has only stayed afloat because ti is still the currency that oil contracts are bought and sold in. But that has changed as of February 2013---Russia, INdia, China Iran and Brazil are all trading oil contracts now NOT based on the worthless US dollar but on their own currencies and/or a basket of currencies. US dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency. Nobiody wants it anymore. DOW JONES IS ABOUT TO TAKE A 40% CORRECTION DOWNWARDS. BY THE END OF THIS YEAR THE DOW JONEWS INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE WILL BE AROUND 9,000.

YOU talk about rates going up. The us cannot even pay the interest on the 26 trillion dollars of debt it has and interest rates are fucking ZERO now for 4 years. If rates even go up to 3 or 4%----you can kiss the uinited states good fucking bye, good fucking riddance, good fucking night

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirk,

Do you think there is a bond bubble? If so do you think it is a "bubble bubble"?

no question the BOND MARKET IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE IN BLACK FLAMES OF HATRED

Which bond market? All bonds of just US bonds? And why?

US bonds are inflated with phantom money printed out of thin air, backed by nothing. The Fed printed or "created" 26 trillion dollars worth of fake money then bought up its own bonds at the Treasury. US dollars are each worth less than ever. The Weimar Republic as well as Hungary did this same desperate thing with catastrophic results. Printing money to bail out failing assholes only saturates the economy with cheap money and destroys the currency. ANY BONDS DENOMINATED IN THAT CURRENCY ARE WORTHLESS PIECES OF SHIT. US Bond Market will collapse----CHina Japan and the Gulf central banks are no longer willing to buy US dollar denominated bonds because they know what the fuck is going on. The US dollar is fucking toast----worthless shit. It has only stayed afloat because ti is still the currency that oil contracts are bought and sold in. But that has changed as of February 2013---Russia, INdia, China Iran and Brazil are all trading oil contracts now NOT based on the worthless US dollar but on their own currencies and/or a basket of currencies. US dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency. Nobiody wants it anymore. DOW JONES IS ABOUT TO TAKE A 40% CORRECTION DOWNWARDS. BY THE END OF THIS YEAR THE DOW JONEWS INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE WILL BE AROUND 9,000.

YOU talk about rates going up. The us cannot even pay the interest on the 26 trillion dollars of debt it has and interest rates are fucking ZERO now for 4 years. If rates even go up to 3 or 4%----you can kiss the uinited states good fucking bye, good fucking riddance, good fucking night

All money is printed out of thin air and backed by nothing.

The Fed doesn't buy its own bonds, it buys Treasury bonds. Every central bank around the world does this. It's how central banks control the money supply and interest rates. It's a system that works really well and has brought the world unparalleled economic stability and prosperity for over a century now.

Here's how the dollar has fared compared to an index of the world's major currencies over the past few years :





As you can see the dollar collapsed in value when the Kenyan imposter took power back in 2002. Oh wait, Obama only took office in January 2009. The dollar has actually slightly increased in value since the 2008 meltdown. So it looks like the dollar's fall in value since you had a balanced budget and booming economy all happened before the Kenyan took office. Yet the media now have a large chunk of the public wetting the bed over the collapse of the dollar that stopped collapsing in 2008. Why is that?

This is the third time the Fed have been doing large-scale bond buying. Both times previously when they stopped buying there was almost no change to rates and people kept buying US bonds.


Why is the Dow going to collapse by 40%?

[brocktonblockbust]

becasue the dollar will collapse. and the stocks are valued in a currency that will collapse. Gold going up to 1500-2000 is a clear sign that the dollar is no longer trusted. stock market will collapse 40% by January 2014.

this 14000 shit is artificial. there is no welath being created. stiock prices are higher now because of implied inflation. you cannot print 26 trillion dollars out of thin air without devaluing the currecny. this is common sense. it cannot work. this is a dead cat bounce to use a gay economic cliche term but i cant htink of any thing better at the speed i am typing. dead cat bounce. like juicing a corpse with a thousand volts yes his heart will beat a little more but he is still dead.

no wealth creation. all consumerism-driven. more free money, more purchases on credit, etc


the treasury and the fed are working together to imitate a new country buying us bonds. its a shell game. its an illusion. no wealth is being created. its artificial. theire is no productivity. its bullshit. devalued dollars mean you need more dollars to do the same shit. stock prices are higher because each dollar is worth less.

[Kirkland Laing]

becasue the dollar will collapse. and the stocks are valued in a currency that will collapse. Gold going up to 1500-2000 is a clear sign that the dollar is no longer trusted. stock market will collapse 40% by January 2014.

this 14000 shit is artificial. there is no welath being created. stiock prices are higher now because of implied inflation. you cannot print 26 trillion dollars out of thin air without devaluing the currecny. this is common sense. it cannot work. this is a dead cat bounce to use a gay economic cliche term but i cant htink of any thing better at the speed i am typing. dead cat bounce. like juicing a corpse with a thousand volts yes his heart will beat a little more but he is still dead.

no wealth creation. all consumerism-driven. more free money, more purchases on credit, etc


the treasury and the fed are working together to imitate a new country buying us bonds. its a shell game. its an illusion. no wealth is being created. its artificial. theire is no productivity. its bullshit. devalued dollars mean you need more dollars to do the same shit. stock prices are higher because each dollar is worth less.

So all this is predicated on the dollar collapsing. What makes you think the dollar is going to collapse?

And how come the Fed tripled the amount of dollars in existence overnight back in 2008 and the value of the dollar went up? How come it hasn't collapsed in the last five years?

Also, too, your last post. I didn't have the time to deal with all the wrong/crazy in it. There was so much nonsense in the post it approached the level of a Lyle post. But as for the US being unable to afford interest payments on the debt, here is the projected spend according to the CBO:




(Got this from google images but this is a CBO projection) So by the end of the decade America will be paying the same amount of money in real terms as it was back when it had a balanced budget and the economy was booming. So why do you think America isn't going to be able to pay the interest? The dollar is going to collapse, right?

[Kirkland Laing]

So why is the dollar going to collapse then?

[brocktonblockbust]

becasue the dollar will collapse. and the stocks are valued in a currency that will collapse. Gold going up to 1500-2000 is a clear sign that the dollar is no longer trusted. stock market will collapse 40% by January 2014.

this 14000 shit is artificial. there is no welath being created. stiock prices are higher now because of implied inflation. you cannot print 26 trillion dollars out of thin air without devaluing the currecny. this is common sense. it cannot work. this is a dead cat bounce to use a gay economic cliche term but i cant htink of any thing better at the speed i am typing. dead cat bounce. like juicing a corpse with a thousand volts yes his heart will beat a little more but he is still dead.

no wealth creation. all consumerism-driven. more free money, more purchases on credit, etc


the treasury and the fed are working together to imitate a new country buying us bonds. its a shell game. its an illusion. no wealth is being created. its artificial. theire is no productivity. its bullshit. devalued dollars mean you need more dollars to do the same shit. stock prices are higher because each dollar is worth less.

So all this is predicated on the dollar collapsing. What makes you think the dollar is going to collapse?

And how come the Fed tripled the amount of dollars in existence overnight back in 2008 and the value of the dollar went up? How come it hasn't collapsed in the last five years?

Also, too, your last post. I didn't have the time to deal with all the wrong/crazy in it. There was so much nonsense in the post it approached the level of a Lyle post. But as for the US being unable to afford interest payments on the debt, here is the projected spend according to the CBO:




(Got this from google images but this is a CBO projection) So by the end of the decade America will be paying the same amount of money in real terms as it was back when it had a balanced budget and the economy was booming. So why do you think America isn't going to be able to pay the interest? The dollar is going to collapse, right?

Hasnt collapsed cuz its beeing artificially propped-up by the Treasury buying up all the bonds that China no longer wants to buy. Thats what I meant by a shell-game. The Treasury has taken China's and Japan's places as bond-buyers and just putting on the govt's balance sheet all these bond sales which is a Shell Game, isnt it? Smoke and Mirrors. Anybody can see that.