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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

    yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

    i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

    i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

    hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

    yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

    i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

    i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

    hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes
    The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

    If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

    yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

    i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

    i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

    hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes
    The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

    If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

    I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.

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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    At welterweight he could be out boxed by Devon and Khan who have the height, reach and speed. Bradley has better conditioning.

    Floyd is faster and all round better.

    Unsure what is left of Manny and JMM. At light welter Garcia and Mattyhsse have the power to hurt Broner and beat him.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    You really don't need a master blue print, just a hard hat, a pick and an axe so to speak. He's really not that complicated it would appear. He is a very very complacent type who waits and expects his counter opportunity more than assert at setting them up. And he looks to do it all for the most part in a straight tall line with little to no lateral movement. I am hard pressed to think of a spell over last few where he has even tried to find his backfoot...set up off the side or just plain show this "outstanding boxer" he proclaims to be. He's an inside fighter with not great defense, flat wide feet and its not so much a shoulder roll as its more used as a shoulder wall to back opponents. Walls can be scaled, gone around. Work rate fast hands behind a good jab and an immunity to bullshit slight of hands and over sold facial expressions will beat him. He's biting a style he knows little of.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

    yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

    i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

    i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

    hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes
    The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

    If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

    I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.
    This is not lightweight though, he's not that powerful at WW, I could clearly see that, I mean khan Tkod Malignaggi and Broner couldn't.


    Khan is taller and has a better reach than Broner and he's quicker and he moves with ease.

    I see khan just dancing circles around Broner.

    I've already seen Broner is 2 very close fights against average guys.

    I say it again, he's not everything that people say he is.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

    yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

    i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

    i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

    hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes
    The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

    If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

    I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.
    This is not lightweight though, he's not that powerful at WW, I could clearly see that, I mean khan Tkod Malignaggi and Broner couldn't.


    Khan is taller and has a better reach than Broner and he's quicker and he moves with ease.

    I see khan just dancing circles around Broner.

    I've already seen Broner is 2 very close fights against average guys.

    I say it again, he's not everything that people say he is.
    I don't disagree with any of this, it's just that Khan has absolutely no punch resistance. He was in serious trouble against a badly faded never was lightweight in his last go, Broner is at least more dangerous than Diaz. As I said, Khan could probably box his head off as long as he didn't get touched, but I wouldn't be confident about that at this point. Half of it is down to Khan not looking quite as sharp offensively either, had he just shown the form he did against Malignaggi it would be easy to say he'd beat Broner right now, but who knows where he is really at.

    I like the fight and all, just can't see either side being eager to make it happen.

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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

    yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

    i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

    i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

    hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes
    The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

    If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

    I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.
    This is not lightweight though, he's not that powerful at WW, I could clearly see that, I mean khan Tkod Malignaggi and Broner couldn't.


    Khan is taller and has a better reach than Broner and he's quicker and he moves with ease.

    I see khan just dancing circles around Broner.

    I've already seen Broner is 2 very close fights against average guys.

    I say it again, he's not everything that people say he is.
    I don't disagree with any of this, it's just that Khan has absolutely no punch resistance. He was in serious trouble against a badly faded never was lightweight in his last go, Broner is at least more dangerous than Diaz. As I said, Khan could probably box his head off as long as he didn't get touched, but I wouldn't be confident about that at this point. Half of it is down to Khan not looking quite as sharp offensively either, had he just shown the form he did against Malignaggi it would be easy to say he'd beat Broner right now, but who knows where he is really at.

    I like the fight and all, just can't see either side being eager to make it happen.
    I agree with you on this, he shouldn't have been in that sort of trouble against the likes of Diaz even though Diaz is a puncher.

    The khan that beat Maidana would have eased past Diaz.

    I also agree that Khan vs Broner isn't a good move for either fighter right now.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Here's the huge flaw in the logic of all this Broner bashing: you guys are all asuming that Broner would fight everyone the same way he fought Gavin Rees and Malignaggi.

    Broner stood still in front of those guys, in all likelyhood, because they were not known as big punchers (goes triple for Paulie). You guys are going out on a limb assuming that Broner would employ the same tactics against a guy like Matthyse, Garcia, or anyone else with a respectable punch.

    Do you guys honestly believe you're uncovering some kind of secret, or that you have more insight into boxing tactics than the professionals?

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