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    Look at who Quillin has faced

    Look at who GGG has faced

    GGG hype is garbage
    You clearly know fuck all about boxing. Who has quillin fought? A fucking 42 year old Ronald Wright who hadnt been in the ring for over 2 years and hadnyt won in 6 years? An average fighter in Hassan N Dam and Fernando Guerrero who would both lose to Macklin. Get a fucking grip man
    Yeah name another GGG win better than those and don't say Proska since he loss. You love GGG.
    Proksa is better then Guerrero. So what that he lost? Guerrero lost to fucking Grady Brewer, has beaten no one of note and looks shit when he fights. Proksa has shown glimpses of class before he fought GGG but GGG looks to have ruined him.

    IUshida is a tough fighter who went the distance with Pirog, Williams, Alvarez and everyone he has fought, except GGG.

    You clearly have no idea about boxing mate so Im not replying to you again
    You are clearly a racist fanboy, you think Ishida is an ATG win man you are sickening.
    No one has brought anyone's race into the mix so don't try and play that card.

    Anything in particular bothers you let us know. I must have missed any clear racism.

    Box on.
    Ishida is a better win than NDam? That's garbage.
    Possibly, your opinion. Racist?

    Lets let it go now.
    If Broner had that resume at 31 he would be laughed at that's a fact.
    Who has Broner beat? Struggled with an old Mallignaggi and many think he lost to DPDL and Fernando Quintero. His resume is very similar to Golovkins. They have had similar number of fights. Why does age matter GGG turned pro late as he stayed amateur a lot longer.

    Dont get me wrong I think Broner is class, which goes against what most people on this forum think, but your really contradicting your argument here saying his resume is better then Golovkins
    Yes but Golovkin is 31 and Ishida is his 3rd or 4th best win this is getting sad to see someone get such undue credit, I don't think Ishida would even beat Winky now, it's whatever just a shame and a bit of a disgrace to boxers who earned what they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetime View Post
    Yes but Golovkin is 31 and Ishida is his 3rd or 4th best win this is getting sad to see someone get such undue credit, I don't think Ishida would even beat Winky now, it's whatever just a shame and a bit of a disgrace to boxers who earned what they got.
    Yes because he turned pro late, it doesnt make a difference how old are you. Khan is 26, his career was in much better shape when he was 23 or 24. Id say he would love to be in GGGs position at 31.

    Martinez is 38. At 31 he was in a very similar position to GGG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    Yes but Golovkin is 31 and Ishida is his 3rd or 4th best win this is getting sad to see someone get such undue credit, I don't think Ishida would even beat Winky now, it's whatever just a shame and a bit of a disgrace to boxers who earned what they got.
    Yes because he turned pro late, it doesnt make a difference how old are you. Khan is 26, his career was in much better shape when he was 23 or 24. Id say he would love to be in GGGs position at 31.

    Martinez is 38. At 31 he was in a very similar position to GGG.
    Though he won't have the ring wear of guys who turned pro younger his body will start breaking down based on age alone GGG does not deserve this hype.

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    When other pro boxers, his opponents, contemporaries and people in and around boxing join the chorus it is very easy to join in, but even with both fingers in my ears my eyes are screaming out quality to me. Myself and Dia have said it for quite a while but its not difficult to be excited by an old school throwback who means business and brings it, time and again.

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    I know a lot of people feel Quillen has not proven himself. Perhaps some truth is in this but I still think he and GGG would make for a good fight. The hype around GGG is much different than the Broner hype. GGG seems like a decent, humble guy who deserves a lot of buzz if not hype about his skills. Broners hype appears to be seventy percent promotional. Despite people's lack of faith in Quillen I think he will prove himself to be amongst the elite. How about GGG and Rusian. It would be interesting to see a couple of these ex Soviet Block fighters go at it. These guys must have an intense training camp. I think they use Volkswagens in place of heavybags

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    I know a lot of people feel Quillen has not proven himself. Perhaps some truth is in this but I still think he and GGG would make for a good fight. The hype around GGG is much different than the Broner hype. GGG seems like a decent, humble guy who deserves a lot of buzz if not hype about his skills. Broners hype appears to be seventy percent promotional. Despite people's lack of faith in Quillen I think he will prove himself to be amongst the elite. How about GGG and Rusian. It would be interesting to see a couple of these ex Soviet Block fighters go at it. These guys must have an intense training camp. I think they use Volkswagens in place of heavybags
    I think your right about Quillin, to me he has improved much and deserves his own push. I hope these two fight it out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    When other pro boxers, his opponents, contemporaries and people in and around boxing join the chorus it is very easy to join in, but even with both fingers in my ears my eyes are screaming out quality to me. Myself and Dia have said it for quite a while but its not difficult to be excited by an old school throwback who means business and brings it, time and again.
    I'm with ya there Beanz, he's quality and fans love strictly business and knockouts. Up until now hes done whats been asked of him and has a fondness for beating guys up, but the guys he is dusting over last few are far removed from the better ones he is already being made a certainy over without so much as a second thought.

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    And while he's startin get hype from the media, he isn't getting "saviour of boxing hype" ala broner, plus its much easier to like a guy when he's not constantly claiming to be the best thing since sliced butter. Obviously he still has to prove himself as elite, and well he can only beat who'll get in the ring with him. from all accounts sturm wasn't to fond of getting in the ring, nor is degale. I do think he'd be less effective at 168 and id make him underdog to the top 2 or 3 guys there, but he'd be a live dog, but with his body he really should stay at 160.

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    Of course he's going to get hyped and especially by HBO and as Max said last night on Hbo's The Fight Game, its getting to the point where an actual boxing contest is considered boring and almost taboo. That is not verbatim but its the jist of it. Instant gratification runs this planet and why should boxing be any different? They better be careful though because the middleweight division is not all that deep. They might hype themselves right out of the contest.

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    "He's the best I ever fought. He never really allowed me to get started. He has clubbing power and you can really feel the weight of every punch he throws." Matthew Macklin

    “He’s a f__king beast,” said Coyne, a 20-0 cruiserweight prospect who has recently dropped down to light heavyweight. “He’s been running guys out of here. Nobody under 175 pounds will spar with him.
    “I’ve sparred with heavyweights who can punch, including Mariusz Wach and Mike Perez, nobody has hit me as hard as Golovkin. His power is out of this world.” Ryan Coyne

    When I first saw him I thought he was the spitting image of Chavez, and it turns out that he fights like him too,” said Jackson, who brought Rogers, his nephew, up the mountain to soak up the professional environment Sanchez has created and, admittedly, to see what all the fuss over Golovkin was about.
    “I liked his work ethic before I even knew it was him,” Jackson continued. “Oh man, he trains like an animal! But once he got into the ring, I saw things that reminded me of Chavez. He’s strong and aggressive, but he’s also very accurate with every punch. And I like the body work. That reminds me of Julio.” Julian Jackson

    “The dude can hit, I’m still getting used to it,” said Imoesiri, who like Coyne, is delightfully bright and articulate. “It’s crazy. I sparred with [undefeated WBA heavyweight beltholder] Alexander Povetkin and he never hurt me like this guy.
    “I must have done 50 rounds while in camp with Povetkin and it was three and half weeks before he hit me with something that made me hold on. With Golovkin I was ready to get out of the ring 45 seconds into our first round of sparring. He hit me with two lefts to the body in the identical spot and had me doubled over. I got through it but it’s hard to defend against 6-inch punches with that much pop. He backs me into a corner with just a jab.
    “And it seems like he does it effortlessly.” David Imoesiri





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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
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    “He’s a f__king beast,” said Coyne, a 20-0 cruiserweight prospect who has recently dropped down to light heavyweight. “He’s been running guys out of here. Nobody under 175 pounds will spar with him.
    “I’ve sparred with heavyweights who can punch, including Mariusz Wach and Mike Perez, nobody has hit me as hard as Golovkin. His power is out of this world.” Ryan Coyne
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    This is not true what Ryan Coyne says
    http://www.boxingscene.com/photo-gen...parring--39852

    If 154's are willing to spar him i'm sure any other weight up from that is. However from reading this article it sounds like Doug Fischer said Golovkin was abit too much for Alvarez is a subtle way.
    Gym notes: Alvarez, Golovkin worth driving up a mountain to see | RingTV "So the kid isn’t perfect. I was still impressed with what I saw from him because I realize that he was in with a real beast."
    Although things have changed for them both since 2011.

    Golovkin comes across as that rare type fighter, and probably the only figter that you could compare to Kostya Tsyzu, “His right hand is like a laser beam. It reminds me of Kostya Tszyu’s right. The way he holds his hands also reminds me of Tszyu. Come to think of it, Golovkin kind of looks of like Tszyu. He’s got the same muscle tone, Central Asian facial features and oil-black hair (sans the pigtail).” Its refreshing to see and i think it adds to the Hype. But from what i have seen of this guy, its not impossible to think that he may become one of Boxing all time greats.
    Last edited by KickMuck; 07-02-2013 at 07:14 AM.

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    I'm starting to become a believer.

    Theres no hiding that lil faded Ouma went 11 rounds and Rosado went 7 or so, but Golovkin seems to get you sooner or later.

    He was utterly in control with Macklin, a proven fighter, from the opening bell and he has that seek and destroy style much like Matthysse.

    Everybody loves a KO puncher so why not?

    I worry for Martinez after his last fight, the Martinez who beat Pavlik could handle Golovkin, but now I don't know.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Martinez in his prime would frankly stand no chance of beating GGG,! Sergio is a great light-middle
    but hardly a beast at the higher weight.
    The Middle weight division, has not been a great division for some time its not littered with top flight
    contenders is it,! but I have a feeling its going to get a lot more interesting with Golovkin about.

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    Good post. Golovkin is special. I HATE HYPE! I can not stand endless hype especially when it is predicated on little more then pure potential. Whatever GGG has, it's something special. I am on the hype train, he has power that is just unreal and he fights so Damn calm. Not saying he's Mayweather or Pacquaio but to me he is just as captivating right now.

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    Yes, he is clearly for real. He walked through Macklin, but you could see the intelligence in doing so. He was busting Macklin up with EVERY punch. Both eyes were screwed and then that peach of a body shot that doubled Macklin over. I sat there and thought to myself 'That was something special'. He should be a lot of fun over the next few years.

    I think Martinez is old now and has been getting older, but they have to fight. You have to fight him and pass the torch on. I don't see what Martinez could do with his fading legs and hands down style. I can see him getting stopped in 6. Prime Martinez would do much better, but he isn't in his prime with all these injuries and age creeping up.

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