Golovkin at super middle?

[Onetime]

He looks incredible. Thats why I like him and think he is unstopable. Of course Martinez has a better resume but I dont think GGG loses to anyone he beat. Quillin ends up completely iced if he gets in the ring with GGG.

I didnt think Macklin would win but the way you clueless fools disregard Macklin is a joke. He is a good, very tough fighter. GGG beat him as if he was nothing.

I think you are the clueless fool, you only like GGG for one reason.

[amat]

I would rather him stay at 160, fight the other trinket holders and wait for Sergio Martinez to get healthy. Hes not huge for 160 at all Imo despite enormous power. I'm a fan of guys fighting at their best weight and 160 is clearly his best weight right now. Him versus Ward or anyone else at 168 just feels forced. He isn't going back to the gym until September so there is time for fight Geale, Quillin and Martinez before any talk of moving up can begin.

[Silkeyjoe]

I would rather him stay at 160, fight the other trinket holders and wait for Sergio Martinez to get healthy. Hes not huge for 160 at all Imo despite enormous power. I'm a fan of guys fighting at their best weight and 160 is clearly his best weight right now. Him versus Ward or anyone else at 168 just feels forced. He isn't going back to the gym until September so there is time for fight Geale, Quillin and Martinez before any talk of moving up can begin.

Yes but will they fight him? He aint gonna be any of these guys mandatorys so is gonna have to pay big to fight these guys. None of the fights would be a big PPV draw so dont see them happening.

[p4pking]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

You GGG fans absolutely love him his resume isn't great for a 31 year old

What did Martinez resume look like at 31? Anyways, Sergio is old and broken, his body is completely failing him. We won't see him in the ring for the rest of 2013 anyways and his own promoter has just come out and said he won't put him in with Golovkin even when he does return. This means Golovkin is the man at 160.

[jehoshaphat]

Sign me up for Froch/Golovkin. I'll pay for that at the full PPV. Give me that being signed/negotiated for boxing fans' Christmas present. That fight will answer all questions and maybe some questions not dared asked.

[ross]

Golovkin may be strong in this weight but it wont transfer as easily as some seem to think if he moves up. His power will be the same, it wont increase, the difference will be even stronger fighters that will be able to take that power. Just like Abraham moving up. Take that strength advantage away and he's not left with much else. Froch would bully Golovkin.

[p4pking]

Abraham couldn't fight worth a shit in the first place, that's hardly the end all example of a hard puncher moving up in weight. Now obviously it's possible Golovkin wouldn't be nearly as effective at 168, and I don't think he should try just yet. He's not even a big middleweight. Would give him a great chance against Froch myself though.

[TitoFan]

I don't get some of the hate for Golovkin. He obviously loves to fight, will fight whoever they put in front of him, hasn't been accused of ducking anybody (on the contrary... fighters will now be ducking him), and is an exciting fighter. Yes... it might be too early to annoint him ATG just yet... but give the guy some time. Hopefully, he will get opponents who will put up a better fight than Macklin. I don't think Martinez, a great fighter but on the decline, will want any part of Golovkin. Golovkin should stay at middle for awhile and fight whoever will fight him. It's anybody's guess how he'd do at 168. Like someone said, he's not a big middleweight, and that might not translate well at 168. But any guesses are just that... guesses.

For my money, I'd love to see him in there against a Chavez Jr., without the diuretics and 30-pound post weigh-in bloating. That would be the closest thing to manslaughter you'd ever see in the ring.

[p4pking]

Well it would appear this Onetime poster is a new addition,with an agenda to convince everyone that is in fact racism which has thrust Golovkin to such heights
There there is Ross

And there you basically have the hate for Golovkin.

[ross]

Well it would appear this Onetime poster is a new addition,with an agenda to convince everyone that is in fact racism which has thrust Golovkin to such heights
There there is Ross

And there you basically have the hate for Golovkin.

Dont be a dick...

Im not "hating" on Golovkin.

He is a middle weight for a reason, hes not a super middle. Another example of a big, strong, hard punching middle who did nothing above middle? Pavlik? McClellan?

Or lower weights, Hatton.

When they move up in weight, their opponents are more resilliant. Its just a fact. When its the strength of their punch and not the sharpness like a Mayweather or Duran then their punches wont have the same effect or bring them the same results.

[Spicoli]

No, he should forget about that right now. He beat Macklin, thats a solid step...but come on. He needs to be punched in the mouth vs a perceived threat or like contender at middle first! The slickest guy, honestly, who he beat was Rosado and that was mostly self preservation punching from the backseat by Gabriel who's first instinct is to trade. Not a guy who baits traps and isn't afraid to piss off a crowd style wise. Save all that Proksa showing signs of Martinez style stuff. You don't get to just toss proven champions in the garbage on the grounds of being 'old' today. How Martinez gets shit on as a near cripple afterthought is comical, and no the Chavez fight wasn't close, and yes real Champions get punched in the teeth, scuffed up and come back! Lets see how it plays out...hopefully Golovkin will get his shot at scalping THE champion but there are other guys there also so no need to add to the list of division jumping just to get a push.

[p4pking]

Who else is out there though? Quillin?

I dunno, Martinez just seemedto be falling apart in his last fight, and I've always thought he was overrated to begin with. To me, Golovkin looks a lot better than Sergio ever did.

Again, I think GGG should stay at 160 for a while, but he's a far cry from just a puncher. He doesn't rely on his physicality or fight in spurts, very patient and calculated approach. No reason to start lumping him in with an Arthur Abraham just yet.

[Boxer4life]

The thing is before we jump on the Golovkin train and want him to move up lets see him tested against real opposition at 160, someone who has size and a good punch, I think Chavez is the go to guy for him to fight next but for some reason that fight is not really being talked about.

[ykdadamaja]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

GTMF out of here. I have not made a prediction on a fight in God knows when... Macklin is what he is- a hyped of scrub. He was going to be blasted by Golovkin, and we all know it. STFU!!!

I have also said Golovkin is the real deal- made a post about it to. So I don't know WTMF you're on.

[Silkeyjoe]

Who else is out there though? Quillin?

I dunno, Martinez just seemedto be falling apart in his last fight, and I've always thought he was overrated to begin with. To me, Golovkin looks a lot better than Sergio ever did.

Again, I think GGG should stay at 160 for a while, but he's a far cry from just a puncher. He doesn't rely on his physicality or fight in spurts, very patient and calculated approach. No reason to start lumping him in with an Arthur Abraham just yet.

I cant agree with Martinez overrated to begin with. He beat very good fighters in Williams and Pavlik at middle where he was the smaller man. He made a show of Chavez who we all know was overrated but is still a good scalp. He also has a very fun style to watch and imo deserves the credit he is getting now as I dont think he got enough credit earlier in his career. His last few fights tho (particularly the Murray fight) he is clearly showing signs of decline and the fact that he is constantly getting injured really shows his age is having an affect. I personally dont want to see him fight GGG because I think it would end badly for Martinez and would much prefer to see him go out on a high rather then a low. If i was him Id fight the winner of Geale v Barker (probably Geale) and if he wins that retire at the top.