Edited reality in boxing records.

[Onetime]

Edited Reality? Ok, let's give 'er a shot!

Every real boxing fan knows the undefeated Mayweather lost to Castillo the 1st fight in 2002.

The Olympic Bronze medalist at featherweight, Mayweather also lost 6 times as an amateur.
(The incomparable Sugar Ray Robinson went undefeated as an amateur 85-0, 69 KOs, and as a pro went to 40-0 before taking his 1st loss ever (Jake LaMotta). Avenges the loss 3 weeks later and goes 91 more fights undefeated before losing again.)

And Mayweather should have been disqualified in the Judah fight when crackhead uncle roger entered the ring and attacked over Judah's dirty tactics. That was bull$#!t that the incompetent ref richard steele allowed the boxing match to resume after the brawl.
For judah's lowblow and rabbit punch, the ref was about to take points away, but any cornermans' infraction of setting foot in the ring during the rd (let alone fighting the fighter), that's an automatic DQ under the rules of boxing, yet the fight resumed.

That's 2 losses as a pro.

Thirdly, I think De La Hoya won the fight with Mayweather on effective aggression and bodywork, but I can see debating that one as it was a snoozefest split-decision with one guy refusing to do what a pro fighter is paid to do: take out the other guy.

I've seen refs threaten to DQ guys cause his corner made a mistake and came in while they were doing the count for Floyd not to be DQed was an embarrassment.

[Boxer4life]

this is slowly going to turn into a fuck maywaether thread for no apparent reason, o wait it already did.....come on guys, pick on someone else, but you cant, cuz hes the best of this generation, point blank, Castillo didn't win that fight, he just came really close, just cuz he did better than everyone else doesn't mean he should be given the fight.

But to respond to the original post, yeah i tend to do that all the time, my mind kind of does it automatically, some guys are just the real deal and some are media darlings.

[Onetime]

this is slowly going to turn into a fuck maywaether thread for no apparent reason, o wait it already did.....come on guys, pick on someone else, but you cant, cuz hes the best of this generation, point blank, Castillo didn't win that fight, he just came really close, just cuz he did better than everyone else doesn't mean he should be given the fight.

But to respond to the original post, yeah i tend to do that all the time, my mind kind of does it automatically, some guys are just the real deal and some are media darlings.

Ha I'm pro Floyd because he got a bad rap for the Manny negotiations but he should have been DQed vs Zab and Castillo was close those are just facts.

[Boxer4life]

this is slowly going to turn into a fuck maywaether thread for no apparent reason, o wait it already did.....come on guys, pick on someone else, but you cant, cuz hes the best of this generation, point blank, Castillo didn't win that fight, he just came really close, just cuz he did better than everyone else doesn't mean he should be given the fight.

But to respond to the original post, yeah i tend to do that all the time, my mind kind of does it automatically, some guys are just the real deal and some are media darlings.

Ha I'm pro Floyd because he got a bad rap for the Manny negotiations but he should have been DQed vs Zab and Castillo was close those are just facts.

Getting dqed after getting hit in the nuts, then in the back of the head, and then choosing to remain calm and not to participate in a riot even though your family is being attacked and you were wronged, yeah he should've def got dqued

[Onetime]

this is slowly going to turn into a fuck maywaether thread for no apparent reason, o wait it already did.....come on guys, pick on someone else, but you cant, cuz hes the best of this generation, point blank, Castillo didn't win that fight, he just came really close, just cuz he did better than everyone else doesn't mean he should be given the fight.

But to respond to the original post, yeah i tend to do that all the time, my mind kind of does it automatically, some guys are just the real deal and some are media darlings.

Ha I'm pro Floyd because he got a bad rap for the Manny negotiations but he should have been DQed vs Zab and Castillo was close those are just facts.

Getting dqed after getting hit in the nuts, then in the back of the head, and then choosing to remain calm and not to participate in a riot even though your family is being attacked and you were wronged, yeah he should've def got dqued

Ha so it's okay that your corner start a riot? Boxing has rules if your corner comes in the ring you are DQed, you want special treatment for Floyd

[bzkfn]

Ha so it's okay that your corner start a riot? Boxing has rules if your corner comes in the ring you are DQed, you want special treatment for Floyd

@Onetime - You're only hating on Floyd because he's an American and everyone hates America.

[Onetime]

Ha so it's okay that your corner start a riot? Boxing has rules if your corner comes in the ring you are DQed, you want special treatment for Floyd

@Onetime - You're only hating on Floyd because he's an American and everyone hates America.

See you can't be honest, I don't blindly defend American or black fighters but the garbage that I see from people who hug Euros against guys like Floyd, Danny, Wilder, B-hop, Devon and Quillin. GGG could start a riot and you would ride him, I don't do that.

[Boxer4life]

this is slowly going to turn into a fuck maywaether thread for no apparent reason, o wait it already did.....come on guys, pick on someone else, but you cant, cuz hes the best of this generation, point blank, Castillo didn't win that fight, he just came really close, just cuz he did better than everyone else doesn't mean he should be given the fight.

But to respond to the original post, yeah i tend to do that all the time, my mind kind of does it automatically, some guys are just the real deal and some are media darlings.

Ha I'm pro Floyd because he got a bad rap for the Manny negotiations but he should have been DQed vs Zab and Castillo was close those are just facts.

Getting dqed after getting hit in the nuts, then in the back of the head, and then choosing to remain calm and not to participate in a riot even though your family is being attacked and you were wronged, yeah he should've def got dqued

Ha so it's okay that your corner start a riot? Boxing has rules if your corner comes in the ring you are DQed, you want special treatment for Floyd

Maybe because before the call was made, yoel judah stepped into the ring and knocked roger upside the head, and then zab proceeded to join in the festivities, if anyone shouldve been dqued, it wasnt floyd

[Spicoli]

Bottom line is you cannot believe everything you read. A record is just a stat sheet with very little depth and perspective. You cannot take it at complete face value and rely on that to give you the entire picture. It is only the "official" end result by the politicos. As infested as boxing is with corruption, terrible decisions by judges being at the top, it is very much up to fans to keep a running tally of asterisks from fights we've watched. But there is a massive difference between debatable and out and out rob jobs. Mostly a record is misleading in literal results...a "knockout" or Dq etc. Not so much now but thrown fights also, dive jobs ruled kos. This can be why everytime we harp on ko records translating to a guy being a monsterous savage puncher it can be shallow. It doesn't mean he was leaving guys twitching on the canvas taking 10 counts. Who was the guy in the first place? Was he hit so much he just stayed on the stool, or just bagged it after making his quota of 2 rounds. You just have to keep perspective fight to fight. You cannot act like a conspiracy theorist at every close bout regardless of bias but never take a record 100 percent face value. There is something to be said for actually watching...remembering the fights!

I have zero doubt for example that Medina beat up Tapia. It happened. But its a "w" for Johhny. Omar Weis boxed the doors off Julio Diaz. Shultz same to Foreman. Zero doubt that Sergio Martinez KO'd Cintron and was rewarded with a "draw". Rafa Ruelas was not "ko'd" very early in career vs Gutierrez his trainer lost the count, Rafa was wide awake and not hurt. Then you have a Lewis vs Akinwande...to me that was a tko and I think of it as such. Humberto Soto was every bit a tko winner over a battered Lorenzo but has a DQ. Honestly, for each fan..the list goes on and on and on.

[Silkeyjoe]

Edited Reality? Ok, let's give 'er a shot!

Every real boxing fan knows the undefeated Mayweather lost to Castillo the 1st fight in 2002.

The Olympic Bronze medalist at featherweight, Mayweather also lost 6 times as an amateur.
(The incomparable Sugar Ray Robinson went undefeated as an amateur 85-0, 69 KOs, and as a pro went to 40-0 before taking his 1st loss ever (Jake LaMotta). Avenges the loss 3 weeks later and goes 91 more fights undefeated before losing again.)

And Mayweather should have been disqualified in the Judah fight when crackhead uncle roger entered the ring and attacked over Judah's dirty tactics. That was bull$#!t that the incompetent ref richard steele allowed the boxing match to resume after the brawl.
For judah's lowblow and rabbit punch, the ref was about to take points away, but any cornermans' infraction of setting foot in the ring during the rd (let alone fighting the fighter), that's an automatic DQ under the rules of boxing, yet the fight resumed.

That's 2 losses as a pro.

Thirdly, I think De La Hoya won the fight with Mayweather on effective aggression and bodywork, but I can see debating that one as it was a snoozefest split-decision with one guy refusing to do what a pro fighter is paid to do: take out the other guy.

I've seen refs threaten to DQ guys cause his corner made a mistake and came in while they were doing the count for Floyd not to be DQed was an embarrassment.

Remember Molinas DQ against Kirkland for this? Now that was embarrassing!