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    New here, but I'm going to roll out my opinion anyway and why:

    1. Whitaker - unquestioned best in his day and for a while - JCC was a joke and everyone knew it
    2. Chavez - beast - he destroyed people in his day and fought a lot of very, very good fighters - not Tiajuana taxi drivers
    3. DLH - I can't stand him, but can't knock what he's done and who he has fought
    4. Sugar Shane - unquestioned best for a while - considered unbeatable at lightweight and was leaps and bounds ahead of them when he moved up - the DLH fights are classics
    5. Hopkins - can't be ignored what he is doing now - I don't think that his middleweight reign has enough names on it to really count and he didn't catch RJJ when he was still truly RJJ - doesn't count
    6. Mayweather - I could argue some of the spots above this, but won't - he's not done, but most people don't think that he's taken on the best at his weight since he was at 135, unless you count Cotto at 154.
    7. Pac - impressive run is over - impressive fall is underway - but the run was impressive
    8. Tito - has a great career - however, I think he clearly lost to DLH, I question his victory over Whitaker, and he was destroyed by Hopkins... good fighter, but not at the elite level of those above him on this list
    9. Kostya - beat Zab in impressive fashion - nice fighter - but was never the name that Tito was, even at his best - but he was the best at his weight for a while and it was surprising when he was handled and how he was handled

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    New here, but I'm going to roll out my opinion anyway and why:

    1. Whitaker - unquestioned best in his day and for a while - JCC was a joke and everyone knew it
    2. Chavez - beast - he destroyed people in his day and fought a lot of very, very good fighters - not Tiajuana taxi drivers
    3. DLH - I can't stand him, but can't knock what he's done and who he has fought
    4. Sugar Shane - unquestioned best for a while - considered unbeatable at lightweight and was leaps and bounds ahead of them when he moved up - the DLH fights are classics
    5. Hopkins - can't be ignored what he is doing now - I don't think that his middleweight reign has enough names on it to really count and he didn't catch RJJ when he was still truly RJJ - doesn't count
    6. Mayweather - I could argue some of the spots above this, but won't - he's not done, but most people don't think that he's taken on the best at his weight since he was at 135, unless you count Cotto at 154.
    7. Pac - impressive run is over - impressive fall is underway - but the run was impressive
    8. Tito - has a great career - however, I think he clearly lost to DLH, I question his victory over Whitaker, and he was destroyed by Hopkins... good fighter, but not at the elite level of those above him on this list
    9. Kostya - beat Zab in impressive fashion - nice fighter - but was never the name that Tito was, even at his best - but he was the best at his weight for a while and it was surprising when he was handled and how he was handled

    You question Tito's victory over Whitaker Tito dominated that fight although I don't give him much credit considering sweet pea was shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    New here, but I'm going to roll out my opinion anyway and why:

    1. Whitaker - unquestioned best in his day and for a while - JCC was a joke and everyone knew it
    2. Chavez - beast - he destroyed people in his day and fought a lot of very, very good fighters - not Tiajuana taxi drivers
    3. DLH - I can't stand him, but can't knock what he's done and who he has fought
    4. Sugar Shane - unquestioned best for a while - considered unbeatable at lightweight and was leaps and bounds ahead of them when he moved up - the DLH fights are classics
    5. Hopkins - can't be ignored what he is doing now - I don't think that his middleweight reign has enough names on it to really count and he didn't catch RJJ when he was still truly RJJ - doesn't count
    6. Mayweather - I could argue some of the spots above this, but won't - he's not done, but most people don't think that he's taken on the best at his weight since he was at 135, unless you count Cotto at 154.
    7. Pac - impressive run is over - impressive fall is underway - but the run was impressive
    8. Tito - has a great career - however, I think he clearly lost to DLH, I question his victory over Whitaker, and he was destroyed by Hopkins... good fighter, but not at the elite level of those above him on this list
    9. Kostya - beat Zab in impressive fashion - nice fighter - but was never the name that Tito was, even at his best - but he was the best at his weight for a while and it was surprising when he was handled and how he was handled

    You question Tito's victory over Whitaker Tito dominated that fight although I don't give him much credit considering sweet pea was shot
    The second part of what you say is what I mean... Whitaker was not Whitaker... Tito was a young lion, but it's not like his punches were that hard to see coming. He won the fight, no doubt... but he didn't beat the guy that I would consider to be the real Sweet Pea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    New here, but I'm going to roll out my opinion anyway and why:

    1. Whitaker - unquestioned best in his day and for a while - JCC was a joke and everyone knew it
    2. Chavez - beast - he destroyed people in his day and fought a lot of very, very good fighters - not Tiajuana taxi drivers
    3. DLH - I can't stand him, but can't knock what he's done and who he has fought
    4. Sugar Shane - unquestioned best for a while - considered unbeatable at lightweight and was leaps and bounds ahead of them when he moved up - the DLH fights are classics
    5. Hopkins - can't be ignored what he is doing now - I don't think that his middleweight reign has enough names on it to really count and he didn't catch RJJ when he was still truly RJJ - doesn't count
    6. Mayweather - I could argue some of the spots above this, but won't - he's not done, but most people don't think that he's taken on the best at his weight since he was at 135, unless you count Cotto at 154.
    7. Pac - impressive run is over - impressive fall is underway - but the run was impressive
    8. Tito - has a great career - however, I think he clearly lost to DLH, I question his victory over Whitaker, and he was destroyed by Hopkins... good fighter, but not at the elite level of those above him on this list
    9. Kostya - beat Zab in impressive fashion - nice fighter - but was never the name that Tito was, even at his best - but he was the best at his weight for a while and it was surprising when he was handled and how he was handled

    You question Tito's victory over Whitaker Tito dominated that fight although I don't give him much credit considering sweet pea was shot
    The second part of what you say is what I mean... Whitaker was not Whitaker... Tito was a young lion, but it's not like his punches were that hard to see coming. He won the fight, no doubt... but he didn't beat the guy that I would consider to be the real Sweet Pea.
    Glad you found the way friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    New here, but I'm going to roll out my opinion anyway and why:

    1. Whitaker - unquestioned best in his day and for a while - JCC was a joke and everyone knew it
    2. Chavez - beast - he destroyed people in his day and fought a lot of very, very good fighters - not Tiajuana taxi drivers
    3. DLH - I can't stand him, but can't knock what he's done and who he has fought
    4. Sugar Shane - unquestioned best for a while - considered unbeatable at lightweight and was leaps and bounds ahead of them when he moved up - the DLH fights are classics
    5. Hopkins - can't be ignored what he is doing now - I don't think that his middleweight reign has enough names on it to really count and he didn't catch RJJ when he was still truly RJJ - doesn't count
    6. Mayweather - I could argue some of the spots above this, but won't - he's not done, but most people don't think that he's taken on the best at his weight since he was at 135, unless you count Cotto at 154.
    7. Pac - impressive run is over - impressive fall is underway - but the run was impressive
    8. Tito - has a great career - however, I think he clearly lost to DLH, I question his victory over Whitaker, and he was destroyed by Hopkins... good fighter, but not at the elite level of those above him on this list
    9. Kostya - beat Zab in impressive fashion - nice fighter - but was never the name that Tito was, even at his best - but he was the best at his weight for a while and it was surprising when he was handled and how he was handled

    You question Tito's victory over Whitaker Tito dominated that fight although I don't give him much credit considering sweet pea was shot
    The second part of what you say is what I mean... Whitaker was not Whitaker... Tito was a young lion, but it's not like his punches were that hard to see coming. He won the fight, no doubt... but he didn't beat the guy that I would consider to be the real Sweet Pea.
    Glad you found the way friend.
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