Duran : In My Era, Mayweather Would Have Been Ordinary

[imp]

Holmes was so skilled with a great heart and fast hands.
Over 15 rounds it would be even worse for Wlad.
Wlad is massive and has all the size advantages but that would not save him.
Holmes never got the respect he deserved. Even after being floored by one of the hardest hitters in the game in earnie shavers and still coming back to win the fight.

Duran has a great chin, power and heart (when he doesnt quit) but the slick style of floyd would be too much for him and floyd would be left to battle it out with leonard and hearns for that top spot.

OK, so allow me to get this straight. With Duran you're saying and I quote

"Exactly.

Thats the point.

No one would ever know"

But with Wladimir you're saying with certainty, no doubts, 100% sure that he'd lose to Larry Holmes.


Do you kinda sorta see how that might, maybe, just possibly perhaps be a bit hypocritical?


The problem you have @imp is that the only person trying to completely discredit a fighter here is YOU. You're attempting to discredit Wladimir Klitschko and in bringing him up to begin with you've lost the argument because you've veered so far off topic. This is about what Roberto Duran said about Floyd Mayweather Jr why does Wlad factor into this? Why bring him up? Just because someone suggests Floyd would have struggled vs some of the greatest fighters ever, in one of the deepest divisions ever....you're THAT upset about a tiny bit of criticism?

OK guys, new rule, no more saying anything remotely negative about Floyd Mayweather Jr., his fans can't take it

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

[El Kabong]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

alluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

[Onetime]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

[Fenster]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

That's the second time in this thread you've said Lewis proves how Lucky Wlad is. Now you either have a fantastic theory about Lewis and Wlad or you don't realise Wlad and Vitali are different human beings?

Explain it please?

[Onetime]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

That's the second time in this thread you've said Lewis proves how Lucky Wlad is. Now you either have a fantastic theory about Lewis and Wlad or you don't realise Wlad and Vitali are different human beings?

Explain it please?

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

To be fair, I don't blame ya

[Onetime]

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

To be fair, I don't blame ya

They show Wlad's fights on Epix sometimes, they don't even show Vital fights, they are K2 they reign over a dead era they aren't a thought to most US fans.

[imp]

Unbelievable.

Im now a homo.

Any other insults you care to throw around when the discussion doesnt go your way?

You mentioned you want the best to challenge themselves..can the same be said for Wlad?

What type of challenge do you want?

[Violent Demise]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

That's the second time in this thread you've said Lewis proves how Lucky Wlad is. Now you either have a fantastic theory about Lewis and Wlad or you don't realise Wlad and Vitali are different human beings?

Explain it please?

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

Seriously that's gotta be one of the dumbest things I ever read. How you gonna form an opinion based on a fight someones brother (Vitali-Lewis) fought? By that reasoning, Jimrex Jaca could beat Manny Pacquiao since he destroyed Bobby Pacquiao

[Andre]

Jesus I happily reading through this and got to the first personal insult thrown then second and third, then gave up reading. Do you really just want a shit fight with insults every day .

[Onetime]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

That's the second time in this thread you've said Lewis proves how Lucky Wlad is. Now you either have a fantastic theory about Lewis and Wlad or you don't realise Wlad and Vitali are different human beings?

Explain it please?

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

Seriously that's gotta be one of the dumbest things I ever read. How you gonna form an opinion based on a fight someones brother (Vitali-Lewis) fought? By that reasoning, Jimrex Jaca could beat Manny Pacquiao since he destroyed Bobby Pacquiao

Bobby wouldn't stand a chance against Manny, I could make the argument by saying Sanders with Wlad and I believe it was Vitali who gave up vs Byrd, so yeah I know what they are.

[Cressa121]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

That's the second time in this thread you've said Lewis proves how Lucky Wlad is. Now you either have a fantastic theory about Lewis and Wlad or you don't realise Wlad and Vitali are different human beings?

Explain it please?

Haven't you seen Ocean's Eleven? If the lights didn't go out Wlad was gonna get fucked up.