Duran : In My Era, Mayweather Would Have Been Ordinary

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

To be fair, I don't blame ya

[Onetime]

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

To be fair, I don't blame ya

They show Wlad's fights on Epix sometimes, they don't even show Vital fights, they are K2 they reign over a dead era they aren't a thought to most US fans.

[imp]

Could you SEE Floyd going 15 round with Hagler, I could see the brown adrenaline running
down Floyd's leg.

Lol.

Right. Thats it.

Im bringing calzaghe into the discussion.

[imp]

You know the Floyd fans are on the ropes when they're trying to defend Floyd by trying to make the discussion about Wlad. And the stupidity of it is that NOBODY is trying to make the case that Floyd sucks or isn't great.....such delicate feelings you have

Again you are the one who loves a boxer with no great names on his resume, if Floyd had beat Martinez, Williams, prime Cotto and Manny he wouldn't get credit from you anyway.

I've given Floyd plenty of credit....is it horrible of me that I wish the best fighter of this era to challenge himself? Is that so terrible of me? I mean I wanted RJJ to challenge himself when he was on top of his game....nobody called me out on that.

Get a fucking grip

Kabong,

What on earth do you think floyd does everytime he steps in the ring?!

Every fight is a challenge for any boxer!

Fine, you appreciate floyds skills but theres still an underlying tone that you think hes a chicken.

Durans style is perfect for floyd and always will be..

[El Kabong]

I'm most assuredly not confused. The topic is about what Roberto Duran said about Floyd Mayweather Jr. I agree with part of what Duran was saying and therein lies the problem that @Onetime and @imp have with me.

Fine, you appreciate floyds skills but theres still an underlying tone that you think hes a chicken.

You might INFER that but I did not specifically imply that nor would I.

They show Wlad's fights on Epix sometimes, they don't even show Vital fights, they are K2 they reign over a dead era they aren't a thought to most US fans.

"$23,333,330 The bid is the third-biggest winning bid ever and far exceeded expectations".....that's for Wlad vs Povetkin...."dead division" 3rd largest bid ever. Yeah he's REALLY hurting for fans in those huge soccer stadiums.

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

So blatantly admitting your lack of understanding about boxing...brave move

[El Kabong]

Every fight is a challenge for any boxer!

[Onetime]

I'm most assuredly not confused. The topic is about what Roberto Duran said about Floyd Mayweather Jr. I agree with part of what Duran was saying and therein lies the problem that @Onetime and @imp have with me.

Fine, you appreciate floyds skills but theres still an underlying tone that you think hes a chicken.

You might INFER that but I did not specifically imply that nor would I.

They show Wlad's fights on Epix sometimes, they don't even show Vital fights, they are K2 they reign over a dead era they aren't a thought to most US fans.

"$23,333,330 The bid is the third-biggest winning bid ever and far exceeded expectations".....that's for Wlad vs Povetkin...."dead division" 3rd largest bid ever. Yeah he's REALLY hurting for fans in those huge soccer stadiums.

My fault I pretty much consider them one person named K2 or The Kilts, same point they are Golotas who got lucky

So blatantly admitting your lack of understanding about boxing...brave move

You want to talk about money? Let's compare Floyd's vs Wlad's purses since you bring it up.

How come I bet you blow GGG for Ishida , Proksa and Rosado while dumping on Floyd?

I don't care about K2 other than to mock their delusional fans

[Onetime]

Every fight is a challenge for any boxer!

Have you ever been told you are an armchair warrior?

[El Kabong]

You want to talk about money? Let's compare Floyd's vs Wlad's purses since you bring it up.

How come I bet you blow GGG for Ishida , Proksa and Rosado while dumping on Floyd?

I don't care about K2 other than to mock their delusional fans

Go ahead, Floyd can move up and down in weight classes, he can pick and choose who to fight, Wlad's division is stagnant. Not because it's devoid of talent but because once you hit heavyweight you stay there, there's no superheavyweight division for guys to come down from and the cruiserweight division is for overachieving light heavies and underachieving smaller heavyweights very rarely do you get a cruiserweight who can successfully move to heavyweight and contend.

You bet? You sure do make a lot of assumptions about me...I'd be careful doing that.

[Cressa121]

Lool

Ek, please go back to the start of the thread and you will clearly see i never brought Wlad into this discussion!

Jeez, as soon as Wlad is even mentioned you start getting nasty.

I said many times in my post to keep on track and stick with duran/floyd.

Floyd is not perfect which is why i said many times i wouldnt know how he would fair against leonard or hearn.

BUT i am sure that duran would not pose as much as a problem in the squared circle to floyd as you mentioned would never have the balls to fight a fighter like duran anyway...

I take it that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said Floyd would never fight someone like Duran and never will fight someone the caliber of Duran not because Floyd is "scared" but because Roberto Duran was that fucking good that there have been very few who even come close to his brilliance in the ring. It's not about Floyd being scared it's about Duran being a once in a lifetime fighter and an all-time great. And yet again, nobody is making the argument that Floyd is bad or Floyd sucks or Floyd isn't a Hall of Famer, All-Time great....Roberto Duran said he would have trouble with the guys he fought is all and rightfully so: Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Gomez...those guys are legends.

Onetime brought Wlad into the discussion, but you called me the "Wlad fan club" after my very first post in this thread, then you said

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

eluding once again to Wlad. But yet you strove to "stay on topic" did you? You retreated from Onetime's indefensible argument is what you did.

I've not gotten nasty at all, I believe my arguments have been very even handed and if anything I have posted has been "nasty" I'll let any poster call me out on it.

Look in 20 years we'll look back at Floyd and say how great he is, in 20 years will say Wlad got lucky to reign over a dead era and the Lewis fight proves it, Golota would reign over this era.

That's the second time in this thread you've said Lewis proves how Lucky Wlad is. Now you either have a fantastic theory about Lewis and Wlad or you don't realise Wlad and Vitali are different human beings?

Explain it please?

Haven't you seen Ocean's Eleven? If the lights didn't go out Wlad was gonna get fucked up.

[Onetime]

You want to talk about money? Let's compare Floyd's vs Wlad's purses since you bring it up.

How come I bet you blow GGG for Ishida , Proksa and Rosado while dumping on Floyd?

I don't care about K2 other than to mock their delusional fans

Go ahead, Floyd can move up and down in weight classes, he can pick and choose who to fight, Wlad's division is stagnant. Not because it's devoid of talent but because once you hit heavyweight you stay there, there's no superheavyweight division for guys to come down from and the cruiserweight division is for overachieving light heavies and underachieving smaller heavyweights very rarely do you get a cruiserweight who can successfully move to heavyweight and contend.

You bet? You sure do make a lot of assumptions about me...I'd be careful doing that.

I actually made the no where else to go argument earlier, Floyd isn't ordinary I don't even like him as a person but if you don't get he's an ATG than I don't know what to tell you

I pegged you as a K2 fan based just off your political views, you love GGG don't you?

[imp]

Unbelievable.

Im now a homo.

Any other insults you care to throw around when the discussion doesnt go your way?

You mentioned you want the best to challenge themselves..can the same be said for Wlad?

What type of challenge do you want?

[El Kabong]

Every fight is a challenge for any boxer!

Have you ever been told you are an armchair warrior?

What's so "warrior" about my responses? I'm not challenging anyone to fisticuffs on here, I'm not "dissin" anyone's mama, I'm not doing anything other than verbally bending you over my knee and spanking you with the facts.

If you agree with imp's statement then....if we're intellectually honest with ourselves....you have 0 trouble with the Klitschko's and the heavyweight division because it becomes not a matter of WHO is fought but THAT they are fought. No doubt each fight is a challenge, but some are more challenging than others...you wouldn't equate a fist fight with a prime Tyson to a fist fight with Joan Rivers would you?

[Onetime]

Every fight is a challenge for any boxer!

Have you ever been told you are an armchair warrior?

What's so "warrior" about my responses? I'm not challenging anyone to fisticuffs on here, I'm not "dissin" anyone's mama, I'm not doing anything other than verbally bending you over my knee and spanking you with the facts.

If you agree with imp's statement then....if we're intellectually honest with ourselves....you have 0 trouble with the Klitschko's and the heavyweight division because it becomes not a matter of WHO is fought but THAT they are fought. No doubt each fight is a challenge, but some are more challenging than others...you wouldn't equate a fist fight with a prime Tyson to a fist fight with Joan Rivers would you?

You said every fight isn't a challenge like you would know, I wish you would have the guts to say what you really think.

[El Kabong]

Unbelievable.

Im now a homo.

Any other insults you care to throw around when the discussion doesnt go your way?

You mentioned you want the best to challenge themselves..can the same be said for Wlad?

What type of challenge do you want?

Believe it. No you're not a homo, but your argument was pretty gay "every fight is a challenge" means I'm "challenged" if I fight Lennox Lewis or Nelson Mandela....do you see how that COULD be wrong, it's like comparing Floyd's fight vs Kino Rodriguez to the fight vs Diego Corrales. Now maybe it's just me but I saw Chico Corrales as a lot more dangerous and challenging than Kino Rodriguez...but hey maybe you don't see it that way.

Wlad is a heavyweight, fighters can move up to face him but he can't move to get better fights, superfights with guys who are a weight class or two south of him...Mayweather can. If Floyd wanted to he could say "I'm going to go for the middleweight title"....due to his size and the way the divisions are set up Wlad can't do that. All Wlad can do is just defend his titles....2nd or 3rd longest reigning heavyweight champion of all time, not too shabby historically