Duran : In My Era, Mayweather Would Have Been Ordinary

[Onetime]

Unbelievable.

Im now a homo.

Any other insults you care to throw around when the discussion doesnt go your way?

You mentioned you want the best to challenge themselves..can the same be said for Wlad?

What type of challenge do you want?

Believe it. No you're not a homo, but your argument was pretty gay "every fight is a challenge" means I'm "challenged" if I fight Lennox Lewis or Nelson Mandela....do you see how that COULD be wrong, it's like comparing Floyd's fight vs Kino Rodriguez to the fight vs Diego Corrales. Now maybe it's just me but I saw Chico Corrales as a lot more dangerous and challenging than Kino Rodriguez...but hey maybe you don't see it that way.

Wlad is a heavyweight, fighters can move up to face him but he can't move to get better fights, superfights with guys who are a weight class or two south of him...Mayweather can. If Floyd wanted to he could say "I'm going to go for the middleweight title"....due to his size and the way the divisions are set up Wlad can't do that. All Wlad can do is just defend his titles....2nd or 3rd longest reigning heavyweight champion of all time, not too shabby historically

Just say Wlad is white

[imp]

Every fight is a challenge for any boxer!

Have you ever been told you are an armchair warrior?

What's so "warrior" about my responses? I'm not challenging anyone to fisticuffs on here, I'm not "dissin" anyone's mama, I'm not doing anything other than verbally bending you over my knee and spanking you with the facts.

If you agree with imp's statement then....if we're intellectually honest with ourselves....you have 0 trouble with the Klitschko's and the heavyweight division because it becomes not a matter of WHO is fought but THAT they are fought. No doubt each fight is a challenge, but some are more challenging than others...you wouldn't equate a fist fight with a prime Tyson to a fist fight with Joan Rivers would you?

Come on now, read between the lines.

What type of challenge do you want?

You said it. What type of challenge must floyd take?

Obviously, duran took all the challenges.

What challenge does floyd need to make him duran(isk)

[El Kabong]

You said every fight isn't a challenge like you would know, I wish you would have the guts to say what you really think.

Because I do know, fighting Prime Ali isn't the same as fighting Peter McNeeley that's just common damn sense.

What are you assuming that I'm holding back Onetime?

[El Kabong]

Come on now, read between the lines.

What type of challenge do you want?

You said it. What type of challenge must floyd take?

Obviously, duran took all the challenges.

What challenge does floyd need to make him duran(isk)

I like the Alvarez fight, I don't like the catchweight, especially after Floyd didn't bother making the weight vs JMM and he gave Pac all that shit about catchweight fights and I'm no Pac fan either but fair is fair. If you're going to give a guy shit for having catchweight fights don't fucking turn around and make one for yourself, it's hypocritical.

I'd like Floyd vs Martinez or Floyd vs Pac...not that I'm a fan of Floyd, Pac, or Martinez but as a boxing fan those are big event fights. Floyd simply doesn't have the Leonard's, Hearns', and Duran's to fight....to his credit he did fight Shane & Oscar albeit at the end of their careers but those were still big wins.

Duran was a workhorse his record is 103-16, he took quite a few challenges he also fought long after his prime was over. I don't want or expect Floyd to do either of those things, I just want him to fight the best available fighters out there on a level playing field. That last part is just pertaining to ring size, catchweights, etc I have never and would never accuse Floyd of any underhanded tactics.

[El Kabong]

Just say Wlad is white

Oh, so that's your problem with him then?

[Onetime]

Just say Wlad is white

Oh, so that's your problem with him then?

Nope I don't target Wlad or Vitali but you attack Floyd, really I don't care about K2 but Floyd being great annoys you.

Never said if you were a GGG fan I suspect you are.

[El Kabong]

Nope I don't target Wlad or Vitali but you attack Floyd, really I don't care about K2 but Floyd being great annoys you.

Never said if you were a GGG fan I suspect you are.

You don't target Wlad or Vitali but you brought them up.

I didn't attack Floyd, I just said he'd never fight someone like Duran because Roberto Duran is the Greatest Lightweight of All-Time and one of the best pound-4-pound boxers in the history of the sport.....those don't come around every day you know. So I wasn't "attacking" Floyd, I was putting Duran in perspective. Floyd being great annoys me? I want you to count how many time that I said Floyd was great in this thread alone....go ahead count 'em up

GGG decent fighter, would I consider myself a fan? No. I was a fan of Tavoris Cloud...rather disappointed he didn't get some title shots sooner, but whatever it happens. I like Joe Hanks too, but he just lost as well. I like Deontay Wilder, I am a Miguel Cotto fan, I liked Andy Lee...race simply isn't an issue with the boxers I like and don't like....hate to disappoint you man

[IamInuit]

Cut the tomfoolery.The notion that Floyd Mayweather would have "been ordinary" in Durans time, Robinsons time, Gans time or any other time is borderline boxing inept.

[imp]

Come on now, read between the lines.

What type of challenge do you want?

You said it. What type of challenge must floyd take?

Obviously, duran took all the challenges.

What challenge does floyd need to make him duran(isk)

I like the Alvarez fight, I don't like the catchweight, especially after Floyd didn't bother making the weight vs JMM and he gave Pac all that shit about catchweight fights and I'm no Pac fan either but fair is fair. If you're going to give a guy shit for having catchweight fights don't fucking turn around and make one for yourself, it's hypocritical.

I'd like Floyd vs Martinez or Floyd vs Pac...not that I'm a fan of Floyd, Pac, or Martinez but as a boxing fan those are big event fights. Floyd simply doesn't have the Leonard's, Hearns', and Duran's to fight....to his credit he did fight Shane & Oscar albeit at the end of their careers but those were still big wins.

Duran was a workhorse his record is 103-16, he took quite a few challenges he also fought long after his prime was over. I don't want or expect Floyd to do either of those things, I just want him to fight the best available fighters out there on a level playing field. That last part is just pertaining to ring size, catchweights, etc I have never and would never accuse Floyd of any underhanded tactics.

Finally, an answer instead of insults.

Canelo wanted the catchweight and floyd agreed. Either way, i dont agree with catchweights anyway.

Floyd IS fighting the best available fighters AND he is the first (i think in boxing) to bring in the olympic style testing to make both fighters on an even playing field.

You mentioned the competition as in theres not the leonard, hearns or durans of today but just because the rounds are shorter and theres more money involved does not mean these guys that put on the same boxing equipment and mouth guards are any less.

Lets find a comparable four fighters that could give these 80s legends a challenge..

[Master]

Cut the tomfoolery.The notion that Floyd Mayweather would have "been ordinary" in Durans time, Robinsons time, Gans time or any other time is borderline boxing inept.

But we could all see Floyd avoid fighting Duran at lightweight because he was with Arum, on PED's, not enough money etc

[El Kabong]

@Onetime, I have to ask....where's all the vitriol you used to throw my way under your other screen names? Have we grown out of that then?

[Mr140]

Honestly i think Mayweather gets crushed by Hearns thats not a great match up for him. I think he loses to Leonard i think Ray was just as good and was far more powerful. Duran i think may get ud most likely at welterweight more so then lightweight. Mayweather vs Benitez would be a bad watch not sure who would win but the fight would be shit. I Think Mayweather is in the top 15 in atg and out of the top guys form the 80's i see Hearns and Leonard beating him. I don't know who brought Wald up but he most likely will be top ten atg heavy if he keeps on winning the way he is.

[Onetime]

Nope I don't target Wlad or Vitali but you attack Floyd, really I don't care about K2 but Floyd being great annoys you.

Never said if you were a GGG fan I suspect you are.

You don't target Wlad or Vitali but you brought them up.

I didn't attack Floyd, I just said he'd never fight someone like Duran because Roberto Duran is the Greatest Lightweight of All-Time and one of the best pound-4-pound boxers in the history of the sport.....those don't come around every day you know. So I wasn't "attacking" Floyd, I was putting Duran in perspective. Floyd being great annoys me? I want you to count how many time that I said Floyd was great in this thread alone....go ahead count 'em up

GGG decent fighter, would I consider myself a fan? No. I was a fan of Tavoris Cloud...rather disappointed he didn't get some title shots sooner, but whatever it happens. I like Joe Hanks too, but he just lost as well. I like Deontay Wilder, I am a Miguel Cotto fan, I liked Andy Lee...race simply isn't an issue with the boxers I like and don't like....hate to disappoint you man

No other account, don't even know how to put an avi on here, you scream Euro hugger to me, so it's weird to see you down talk a great while being a fan of someone considered lesser by most fans.

[imp]

Cut the tomfoolery.The notion that Floyd Mayweather would have "been ordinary" in Durans time, Robinsons time, Gans time or any other time is borderline boxing inept.

But we could all see Floyd avoid fighting Duran at lightweight because he was with Arum, on PED's, not enough money etc

Maybe sarcastic but another good point made.

How many professional boxers of old got away with steroid abuse compared to stricter controls that we have now (well, the controls arent perfect now but alot better!)

There was not an inkling of olympic style testing then (in boxing) so who knows how many great fighters werent so great after all.

Then again, how longs a piece of string.

[Onetime]

Cut the tomfoolery.The notion that Floyd Mayweather would have "been ordinary" in Durans time, Robinsons time, Gans time or any other time is borderline boxing inept.

But we could all see Floyd avoid fighting Duran at lightweight because he was with Arum, on PED's, not enough money etc

Those were all legit reasons you know Top Rank won't work with Golden Boy and good will efforts like letting Lara and PDL fight Top Rank guys got them nothing and a robbery.

Manny said he's scared of needles while having tats.

In the USA the cable company takes half the PPV money I assure you the numbers Arum wanted were unrealistic