Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?

[ryanman]

Where did I say JMM put on 15lbs of muscle? That was a hypothetical.

What I said applies to the gaining of ANY muscle, whether we're talking 0.5lbs or 50lbs.

It is incredibly hard to pack any muscle on your body when you are undergoing insane cardio day in, day out. That is a fact. It's not debatable.

It is also incredibly hard to do it when you are damn near 40 years old. Our testosterone levels start to drop in our early 30s, sometimes even mid to late 20s. An athlete being physically superior in his late 30's/early 40's than he was in his mid 20's/early 30's is something that was completely unheard of before PED's became commonplace.

So for JMM to put on that much muscle (I gaurentee you it was more than 1lb, but that's a moot point) is NOT NORMAL. It DEFIES SCIENCE. It's not a question of hard work. It's a question of science, and the limitation of the human body.

I'm not saying he's necessarily even taking illegal PED's.

Are you aware of testosterone replacement therapy? That's 100% legal.

In the last 12 months I've gained 14lbs and my body fat is lower than it's been in a while.

I do a lot of hours of INTENSE cardio every week.

If it's possible for me to put on a stone, then why would it be nearly impossible for a 40 year elite athlete, surrounded by a team of nutritionists, chefs, coaches, soft tissue therapists etc to put on .5lb drug free?

As long as he isn't on a calorie defecit he can gain weight, in fact at 40 his basal metabolic rate is going to have slowed significantly, making weight gain easier, almost inevitable... I'm sure he doesn't struggle to get nutrient and calorie dense food personally cooked for him round the clock...

Perhaps the change is because JMM's idea of nutrition has changed from drinking his own piss?

Apparently Pac condradicting yourself and flip flopping several times as to why he won't do tests for Floyd (I'm scares of needles - he has tattoos, I don't want to lose a drop of blood near a fight - he did it for MAB, it will distupt my training - he claims he will do it for lesser fighters now?) isn't suspicious as fuck, but knocking somebody the fuck out who keeps walking on to your counter right is?

Who cares with what you do... What is the need to bring your personals in this discussion. maybe you are famous?

Irrelevant as it may be, with you taking free advertisement for yourself, doesn't add value to your argument.

For what is this? Who are you? A celebrity.... Can I get an autograph please?

What difference does it make if he is famous or not?
The point he is making is that it is physically possible to do such things without using PEDs. That's true whether you are famous or not.

[KananKrus]

Where did I say JMM put on 15lbs of muscle? That was a hypothetical.

What I said applies to the gaining of ANY muscle, whether we're talking 0.5lbs or 50lbs.

It is incredibly hard to pack any muscle on your body when you are undergoing insane cardio day in, day out. That is a fact. It's not debatable.

It is also incredibly hard to do it when you are damn near 40 years old. Our testosterone levels start to drop in our early 30s, sometimes even mid to late 20s. An athlete being physically superior in his late 30's/early 40's than he was in his mid 20's/early 30's is something that was completely unheard of before PED's became commonplace.

So for JMM to put on that much muscle (I gaurentee you it was more than 1lb, but that's a moot point) is NOT NORMAL. It DEFIES SCIENCE. It's not a question of hard work. It's a question of science, and the limitation of the human body.

I'm not saying he's necessarily even taking illegal PED's.

Are you aware of testosterone replacement therapy? That's 100% legal.

In the last 12 months I've gained 14lbs and my body fat is lower than it's been in a while.

I do a lot of hours of INTENSE cardio every week.

If it's possible for me to put on a stone, then why would it be nearly impossible for a 40 year elite athlete, surrounded by a team of nutritionists, chefs, coaches, soft tissue therapists etc to put on .5lb drug free?

As long as he isn't on a calorie defecit he can gain weight, in fact at 40 his basal metabolic rate is going to have slowed significantly, making weight gain easier, almost inevitable... I'm sure he doesn't struggle to get nutrient and calorie dense food personally cooked for him round the clock...

Perhaps the change is because JMM's idea of nutrition has changed from drinking his own piss?

Apparently Pac condradicting yourself and flip flopping several times as to why he won't do tests for Floyd (I'm scares of needles - he has tattoos, I don't want to lose a drop of blood near a fight - he did it for MAB, it will distupt my training - he claims he will do it for lesser fighters now?) isn't suspicious as fuck, but knocking somebody the fuck out who keeps walking on to your counter right is?

Who cares with what you do... What is the need to bring your personals in this discussion. maybe you are famous?

Irrelevant as it may be, with you taking free advertisement for yourself, doesn't add value to your argument.

For what is this? Who are you? A celebrity.... Can I get an autograph please?

What difference does it make if he is famous or not?
The point he is making is that it is physically possible to do such things without using PEDs. That's true whether you are famous or not.

12 year old tooting your own horn is ok? Part of boxing... Or you tooting his horn part of boxing? Oh you like that!