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    Default Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?

    On December 8, 2012, Manny Pacquiao fought Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. It was the fourth time that the two men had met in the ring. In thirty-six previous rounds, Marquez had been unable to knock Pacquiao down.
    Marquez had a new look when he faced Pacquiao in their fourth encounter. Having trained under the supervision of Angel “Memo” Heredia (a/k/a Angel Hernandez), Juan Manuel was sporting a dramatically altered physique. To some, even his head seemed differently shaped.
    Heredia’s resume includes a stint as a steroid dealer who cooperated with prosecutors after being ensnared in the BALCO drug scandal.
    In round six, Marquez knocked Pacquiao unconscious with one punch. The image of Manny pitching forward and lying face-down on the canvas lingers in the mind. He lay there for a long time.
    The floodgates are open now. Whether or not Marquez used illegal PEDs, a lot of fighters think that he did. And they’ll use them to further their own ring aspirations.
    Pacquiao, like Marquez, has been suspected of PED use in the past and scored his share of brutal knockouts. Neither man has ever tested positive for illegal performance enhancing drugs. But it’s a matter of record that elite fighters like Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Antonio Tarver, Andre Berto, and Lamont Peterson have. Shane Mosley never tested positive, but his name surfaced in the BALCO investigation and he ultimately admitted using PEDs. Other fighters like Evander Holyfield, Jameel McCline, and Yuriorkis Gamboa have been linked to PED use by clinic records.
    As I wrote nine months ago, “PED use is more prevalent in boxing now than ever before, particularly at the elite level. Fighters are reconfiguring their bodies and, in some instances, look like totally different physical beings. In a clean world, fighters don’t get older, heavier, and faster at the same time. But that’s what’s happening in boxing. Improved performances at an advanced age are becoming common. Fighters at age thirty-five are outperforming what they could do when they were thirty. In some instances, fighters are starting to perform at an elite level at an age when they would normally be expected to be on a downward slide. PEDs offer more than a shortcut. They take an athlete to a place that he, or she, might not be able to get to without them. When undertaken in conjunction with proper exercise and training, the use of PEDs creates a better athlete. The use of PEDs is also illegal, gives an athlete who uses them an unfair competitive advantage, and endangers other fighters who are getting hit in the head harder than before by opponents.”




    Thomas Hauser
    PEDs: When the lawsuits come














    BoxingScene caught up with Marquez’s trainer Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain and was asked to give his thoughts on the upcoming clash.
    “They’re going to find a completely different Juan Manuel Marquez than they saw against Pacquiao. Very strong, he’s gained speed. He’s dedicated to giving the Latino people another great victory” said Beristain.
    Marquez isn’t exactly a spring chicken as he turns 40 years old today and is the reason why some doubt if Marquez can still be effective against a fighter like Bradley. Many think Bradley’s youth, strength and hunger will make the difference in the fight and aren’t sure if Marquez will be able to cope.
    “We are trying to get a little more speed so we don’t give a chance to Bradley who’s fast. We are working on a lot of defense because when you make Bradley miss it’s like his batteries drain a bit. We intend on beating him [using] Mexican technique versus Bradley’s technique” Beristain would tell BoxingScene.
    Both fighters have promised to bring their best and despite Marquez’s age, Beristain believes he’s still excelling at this stage of his career.
    “He’s exceeding the level even though its odd seeing it at his age. He’s going to give you all a surprise”.


    Luis Sandoval
    Nacho: Marquez Will Be Very Strong, Faster For Bradley


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    Default Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?

    Well it is was more likely Pac was on roids then Marquez so if that was the case it was for once a even fight. As for that punch he has landed it a lot on pac this time with pac helping him out some. I think Marquez has been robbed enough fighting pac i am really glad he knocked him the fuck out.

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    Default Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    On December 8, 2012, Manny Pacquiao fought Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. It was the fourth time that the two men had met in the ring. In thirty-six previous rounds, Marquez had been unable to knock Pacquiao down.
    Marquez had a new look when he faced Pacquiao in their fourth encounter. Having trained under the supervision of Angel “Memo” Heredia (a/k/a Angel Hernandez), Juan Manuel was sporting a dramatically altered physique. To some, even his head seemed differently shaped.
    Heredia’s resume includes a stint as a steroid dealer who cooperated with prosecutors after being ensnared in the BALCO drug scandal.
    In round six, Marquez knocked Pacquiao unconscious with one punch. The image of Manny pitching forward and lying face-down on the canvas lingers in the mind. He lay there for a long time.
    The floodgates are open now. Whether or not Marquez used illegal PEDs, a lot of fighters think that he did. And they’ll use them to further their own ring aspirations.
    Pacquiao, like Marquez, has been suspected of PED use in the past and scored his share of brutal knockouts. Neither man has ever tested positive for illegal performance enhancing drugs. But it’s a matter of record that elite fighters like Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Antonio Tarver, Andre Berto, and Lamont Peterson have. Shane Mosley never tested positive, but his name surfaced in the BALCO investigation and he ultimately admitted using PEDs. Other fighters like Evander Holyfield, Jameel McCline, and Yuriorkis Gamboa have been linked to PED use by clinic records.
    As I wrote nine months ago, “PED use is more prevalent in boxing now than ever before, particularly at the elite level. Fighters are reconfiguring their bodies and, in some instances, look like totally different physical beings. In a clean world, fighters don’t get older, heavier, and faster at the same time. But that’s what’s happening in boxing. Improved performances at an advanced age are becoming common. Fighters at age thirty-five are outperforming what they could do when they were thirty. In some instances, fighters are starting to perform at an elite level at an age when they would normally be expected to be on a downward slide. PEDs offer more than a shortcut. They take an athlete to a place that he, or she, might not be able to get to without them. When undertaken in conjunction with proper exercise and training, the use of PEDs creates a better athlete. The use of PEDs is also illegal, gives an athlete who uses them an unfair competitive advantage, and endangers other fighters who are getting hit in the head harder than before by opponents.”




    Thomas Hauser
    PEDs: When the lawsuits come














    BoxingScene caught up with Marquez’s trainer Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain and was asked to give his thoughts on the upcoming clash.
    “They’re going to find a completely different Juan Manuel Marquez than they saw against Pacquiao. Very strong, he’s gained speed. He’s dedicated to giving the Latino people another great victory” said Beristain.
    Marquez isn’t exactly a spring chicken as he turns 40 years old today and is the reason why some doubt if Marquez can still be effective against a fighter like Bradley. Many think Bradley’s youth, strength and hunger will make the difference in the fight and aren’t sure if Marquez will be able to cope.
    “We are trying to get a little more speed so we don’t give a chance to Bradley who’s fast. We are working on a lot of defense because when you make Bradley miss it’s like his batteries drain a bit. We intend on beating him [using] Mexican technique versus Bradley’s technique” Beristain would tell BoxingScene.
    Both fighters have promised to bring their best and despite Marquez’s age, Beristain believes he’s still excelling at this stage of his career.
    “He’s exceeding the level even though its odd seeing it at his age. He’s going to give you all a surprise”.


    Luis Sandoval
    Nacho: Marquez Will Be Very Strong, Faster For Bradley

    PEDs offer more than a shortcut. They take an athlete to a place that he, or she, might not be able to get to without them. When undertaken in conjunction with proper exercise and training, the use of PEDs creates a better athlete. The use of PEDs is also illegal, gives an athlete who uses them an unfair competitive advantage, and endangers other fighters who are getting hit in the head harder than before by opponents.” You take the time to type out this fancy post when the verbiage above best describes Pac's unheard of meteoric rise that defies what any other fighter in history has ever achieved. The thought that a fighter can climb up so many weight classes and out-power fighters at their natural weight while declining PED tests all the while. It is the reason why Pac face first on the canvas image "viraled out," so fast and became comics ammo. I now know how a womans orgasm must feel .... ahhhh, the great feeling one gets seeing Pac Tards eat crow. They can not fathom that their "GOD" just got owned by a truly better "all around fighter" . Pac Tards call it a lucky punch , they give credit to Heredia for the KO but fail to realize Rios used Heredia in the rematch against vs Alvarado and lost. Then conveniently omit this in pre-fight posts to Rios fight. Pactards are truly the Brainless Bunch. I would love for the cherry picked , slow, light hitting, no lateral movement, no defense Rios to KTFO of Pac and retire his ass and see less Pac tard ignorant future posts. I already know the excuses.... Heredia did it again, juiced JMM result was the real cause, cramps in legs, .99 cent socks were the reason, Jinky and her ugly ass plastic surgery threw him off, and a new soon to be created excuse. The floodgates have always been open regarding Pac's PED use !!!! Write about that !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ask your footnote buddy Thomas Hauser , he'll tell you hell yes Pac juiced. Live by the sword die by the sword !!!


    As for Marquez he will enter the showdown vs Bradley as the favorite to win a title in a fifth different division, making him the first Mexican to pull off such feat. A 5th fight in 2014 at 41 to pacify Pactards is senseless. He managed to sacrifice everything in their last fight for a KO and achieved his goal. Only a fool would try to replicate a masterpiece of a fight plan. No judging controversy, lethal KO = close the book , end of epic series! Marquez showed that he could knock Pacquiao out, and that Pacquiao could not knock him out in four tries.
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