Last edited by SugarBoxing; 09-20-2013 at 05:56 AM.
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Hitler, Mao and Stalin did not kill more people than religion itself "ever did", at least not directly. Hitler was raised catholic and condemned atheist movements by the Bolsheviks etc, it's debatable whether he was an atheist himself but that doesn't really matter. It has nothing to do with what he did or who he was, as goes for Stalin and Mao as well.
Last edited by p4pking; 09-20-2013 at 07:28 AM.
Hitler did not practice Catholicism. Many Catholic priests were killed in Concentration camps. One of Stalin's first moves was to attack the church both Catholic and Orthodoxy putting followers in reeducation camps.To this day, Many faiths in China practice in secrecy for fear of the government. Mao alone killed more than Hitler and Stalin put together. Most of what you call religious wars are actually land wars ie the war in Ireland and many middle eastern wars.
An atheist dictator killing Catholics isn't any different than Catholics killing Protestants, Sunnis killing Shiites, Hindus killing Sihks, yada yada. Stalin and Mao were awful people with an unprecedented capacity to kill, but they may not have been atheists without the writings of Karl Marx, who never killed anyone to my knowledge. Their personal beliefs had very little to do with what horrors they inflicted imo, there WERE no atheists not all that long ago, history is still rife with monsters.
There are Jews (God's chosen people) and Christian, people who accepted Jesus as the only savior, the rest (most of Catholics, Protestants, Sunnis killing Shiites, Hindus killing Sihks, etc ) are in God eyes the same, though everybody has a choice to get saved.
God does not believe in atheists, most of "atheists" are either money, men (some dictator), self, or satan worshipers of different kind. People are just made like that: we have to believe in something. And these type of people bring all shit on earth including global warming bullshit, wars and such. There are million gods in this world, but there is only one true God.
Last edited by SugarBoxing; 09-20-2013 at 08:38 PM.
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What you believe is more sickening than anything I could ever wish upon anyone, and you are clearly stupid. Just to humour you; how about people born in remote or tribal regions of the world, where they would never even hear about Jesus, Judaism, or Christianity. Do they all go to hell?
Who interpreted the Bible for you ? Did you come to those conclusions on yourself or were you swayed by the words of men ? You say there is only one true God and then you claim that Jesus is the saviour? Have you forgotten the second commandment " You shall have no other gods before me" That specifically precludes compartmentalization, partners or intermediaries. So no God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost or did God get it wrong ? Are you just picking and choosing what parts to believe in order to judge your fellow man?
You are making a God out of yourself as soon as your utter the words "There is only one true God". You have set yourself up for conflict and Holy war. Jews were monolatrists ( and many scholars believe possibly polytheists ) not monotheists. They worshipped their own one God but never denied the existence of others. They worshipped him not because of his unique position as creator of the Universe but because he got them out of Egypt and made a covenant with them. He was a jealous God, and they owed him big time.
Your God is not the God of the Jews, your God is Jesus, through whom you believe everyone has the chance to get saved. Saved from what ? Sin. Sin earned by exercising the God given right to free will. What kind of parent gives their child a choice and then punishes them for making a choice. If Adam and Eve were perfect why would they make such a choice ? Surely only God can be perfect because everything out of a mold is merely a facsimile, an imperfect copy? Or were Adam and Eve Gods?
How many people have been killed by Religious people claiming that there is only one true God? Far too many for there justification to mean anything but a boastful pride and arrogance, that a loving God, if he really existed, would be ashamed to have associated with him. If you are so sure that your God is the same God that the Jews worshipped then be mindful that after giving the commandment not to murder he sent people in to slaughter those who worshipped a calf made by the man who he then anointed as high Priest. If you wish to align yourself with such barbarity don't expect others to be especially worried when you call them Satan worshippers or damn them to eternal damnation in burning fire.
P4p, check into these things you say and you will be surprised how many of these are driven actually by land rather than beliefs. The majority of Middle Eastern issues are the cause of Churchill and Lawrence making countries borders arbitrarily. The Brits screwed all that up after the fall of the Ottoman empire. The Brits have a knack of screwing things up. The US is also guilty but England, back in the day, did a number on the Middle East. The Shiite and Sunni issues are prime examples of this. When arbitrarily making maps on the Middle East, the Brits took none of that into consideration.
Speak for yourself man, you clearly aren't thinking to far back. I suppose it all started with Churchill and Lawrence rightThe Middle east was a utopia before the 20th century. Religion has always been used as a scapegoat in land wars, I would never dispute that and haven't done so. Don't assume I'm as clueless as NVsemin is please, thanks.
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