How did you score Klitschko v Povetkin?

[bzkfn]

I scored it the same as the judges 119-104. I didn't give Povetkin a single round as he was dominated from start to finish. I hate Wlad's style, it is bullshit he isn't warned for his holding/leaning more as it is excessive, but too many on here are not giving the man his due for dominating against yet another top opponent.

Is Wlad style ugly as sin? Yes
Does he bend the rules at times? Yes
Is he the best/most skilled Heavyweight out there? Yes

A decade of destruction doesn't lie. I used to argue with @El Kabong about Wlad but the Haye fight proved Lyle's point in my eyes.

[erics44]

I scored it the same as the judges 119-104. I didn't give Povetkin a single round as he was dominated from start to finish. I hate Wlad's style, it is bullshit he isn't warned for his holding/leaning more as it is excessive, but too many on here are not giving the man his due for dominating against yet another top opponent.

Is Wlad style ugly as sin? Yes
Does he bend the rules at times? Yes
Is he the best/most skilled Heavyweight out there? Yes

A decade of destruction doesn't lie. I used to argue with @El Kabong about Wlad but the Haye fight proved Lyle's point in my eyes.

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

[bzkfn]

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

Jesus Christ, @El Kabong & @Freedom have come into some criticism for defending Wlad but some people on here need to take off their rose tinted glasses and jog their memory. Us Brits all loved Frank Bruno, but his holding to win the World Title from Oliver McCall was just as bad if not worse than what Wlad did on Saturday. I'd take your argument on board @erics44 if you weren't so in denial that Wlad isn't the only one who does it. Earlier you were basically saying that what Hatton did in the Tszyu fight was within acceptable levels. I'm a huge Hatton fan, I'd say he's one of, if not my all time favourite boxer but he mauled and low blowed Kostya on numerous occasions in that fight and he wasn't admonished by Dave Parris. Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and there shouldn't be a grey area of acceptable levels.

I completely understand being annoyed about it and but banging home double standards in numerous threads is only serving to diminish your argument.

[erics44]

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

Jesus Christ, @El Kabong & @Freedom have come into some criticism for defending Wlad but some people on here need to take off their rose tinted glasses and jog their memory. Us Brits all loved Frank Bruno, but his holding to win the World Title from Oliver McCall was just as bad if not worse than what Wlad did on Saturday. I'd take your argument on board @erics44 if you weren't so in denial that Wlad isn't the only one who does it. Earlier you were basically saying that what Hatton did in the Tszyu fight was within acceptable levels. I'm a huge Hatton fan, I'd say he's one of, if not my all time favourite boxer but he mauled and low blowed Kostya on numerous occasions in that fight and he wasn't admonished by Dave Parris. Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and there shouldn't be a grey area of acceptable levels.

I completely understand being annoyed about it and but banging home double standards in numerous threads is only serving to diminish your argument.

mwaaaaaaaaahaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha

why are you in so much denial that wlad is cheats and is corrupt when it is so obvious

hatton grappled and punched, wlad holds and clinches and grabs then does it again, you cant truely think that the hatton and tzu fight can in any way be compared to the wlad fight on saturday in terms of holding and fouling?

and im not sure your statement about the low blows is entirely true

[bzkfn]

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

Jesus Christ, @El Kabong & @Freedom have come into some criticism for defending Wlad but some people on here need to take off their rose tinted glasses and jog their memory. Us Brits all loved Frank Bruno, but his holding to win the World Title from Oliver McCall was just as bad if not worse than what Wlad did on Saturday. I'd take your argument on board @erics44 if you weren't so in denial that Wlad isn't the only one who does it. Earlier you were basically saying that what Hatton did in the Tszyu fight was within acceptable levels. I'm a huge Hatton fan, I'd say he's one of, if not my all time favourite boxer but he mauled and low blowed Kostya on numerous occasions in that fight and he wasn't admonished by Dave Parris. Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and there shouldn't be a grey area of acceptable levels.

I completely understand being annoyed about it and but banging home double standards in numerous threads is only serving to diminish your argument.

mwaaaaaaaaahaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha

why are you in so much denial that wlad is cheats and is corrupt when it is so obvious

hatton grappled and punched, wlad holds and clinches and grabs then does it again, you cant truely think that the hatton and tzu fight can in any way be compared to the wlad fight on saturday in terms of holding and fouling?

and im not sure your statement about the low blows is entirely true

You are aware holding and hitting is an illegal tactic right?

I'm not defending Wlad. I was sat in front of the TV on Saturday saying how much bullshit it was that he wasn't warned. But you're acting like the problem is limited to 1 fighter, when the truth of the matter is that alot of fighters get away with bullshit calls from corrupt referees and there are plenty of fighters guilty of similar tactics. Watch Bruno-McCall again if you don't believe me. The last round in particular was a disgrace.

As for Hatton-Tszyu, are you really suggesting that when Hatton walked up to Kostya and blatently punched him in the balls that it had no effect on how Kostya performed for the latter part of the fight? His pissed blood for a week after that fight.

Since you didn't acknowledge it I'll ask again. How can you have double standards by saying Hatton was withing acceptable levels of rule bending but Wlad wasn't? Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and surely by labelling something 'a foul' means it is not acceptable?

[erics44]

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

Jesus Christ, @El Kabong & @Freedom have come into some criticism for defending Wlad but some people on here need to take off their rose tinted glasses and jog their memory. Us Brits all loved Frank Bruno, but his holding to win the World Title from Oliver McCall was just as bad if not worse than what Wlad did on Saturday. I'd take your argument on board @erics44 if you weren't so in denial that Wlad isn't the only one who does it. Earlier you were basically saying that what Hatton did in the Tszyu fight was within acceptable levels. I'm a huge Hatton fan, I'd say he's one of, if not my all time favourite boxer but he mauled and low blowed Kostya on numerous occasions in that fight and he wasn't admonished by Dave Parris. Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and there shouldn't be a grey area of acceptable levels.

I completely understand being annoyed about it and but banging home double standards in numerous threads is only serving to diminish your argument.

mwaaaaaaaaahaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha

why are you in so much denial that wlad is cheats and is corrupt when it is so obvious

hatton grappled and punched, wlad holds and clinches and grabs then does it again, you cant truely think that the hatton and tzu fight can in any way be compared to the wlad fight on saturday in terms of holding and fouling?

and im not sure your statement about the low blows is entirely true

You are aware holding and hitting is an illegal tactic right?

I'm not defending Wlad. I was sat in front of the TV on Saturday saying how much bullshit it was that he wasn't warned. But you're acting like the problem is limited to 1 fighter, when the truth of the matter is that alot of fighters get away with bullshit calls from corrupt referees and there are plenty of fighters guilty of similar tactics. Watch Bruno-McCall again if you don't believe me. The last round in particular was a disgrace.

As for Hatton-Tszyu, are you really suggesting that when Hatton walked up to Kostya and blatently punched him in the balls that it had no effect on how Kostya performed for the latter part of the fight? His pissed blood for a week after that fight.

Since you didn't acknowledge it I'll ask again. How can you have double standards by saying Hatton was withing acceptable levels of rule bending but Wlad wasn't? Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and surely by labelling something 'a foul' means it is not acceptable?

i remember one occasion when hatton landed a low blow yes, and it was in reply to tzu doing it just a few seconds before if i remember correctly, tzus was blatent and went unpunished so hatton returned the favour

so yes hatton landed a low blow but i dont remember it being several occasions as you put it, and even if it was 3 (which it wasnt) does that compare to 40 clinches in the first 3 rounds?

the levels of rule bending hatton did was visible, the levels of rule bending wlad does is very much off the scale, hattons tactics approach resembles boxing wlads doesnt, wlads whole appraoch is based on holding, hattons was based on punching

wlad klit is corrupt, money keeps his title not boxing skill

he would no longer be champion if he only bent the rules as much as hatton did

40 clinches in the first 3 rounds, fuck a duck!

[ElTerribleMorales]

it was a piece of shit fight, and both guys are equally to blame, I put it on the same level as Haye/Valuev

[El Kabong]

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

Jesus Christ, @El Kabong & @Freedom have come into some criticism for defending Wlad but some people on here need to take off their rose tinted glasses and jog their memory. Us Brits all loved Frank Bruno, but his holding to win the World Title from Oliver McCall was just as bad if not worse than what Wlad did on Saturday. I'd take your argument on board @erics44 if you weren't so in denial that Wlad isn't the only one who does it. Earlier you were basically saying that what Hatton did in the Tszyu fight was within acceptable levels. I'm a huge Hatton fan, I'd say he's one of, if not my all time favourite boxer but he mauled and low blowed Kostya on numerous occasions in that fight and he wasn't admonished by Dave Parris. Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and there shouldn't be a grey area of acceptable levels.

I completely understand being annoyed about it and but banging home double standards in numerous threads is only serving to diminish your argument.

mwaaaaaaaaahaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha

why are you in so much denial that wlad is cheats and is corrupt when it is so obvious

hatton grappled and punched, wlad holds and clinches and grabs then does it again, you cant truely think that the hatton and tzu fight can in any way be compared to the wlad fight on saturday in terms of holding and fouling?

and im not sure your statement about the low blows is entirely true

You are aware holding and hitting is an illegal tactic right?

I'm not defending Wlad. I was sat in front of the TV on Saturday saying how much bullshit it was that he wasn't warned. But you're acting like the problem is limited to 1 fighter, when the truth of the matter is that alot of fighters get away with bullshit calls from corrupt referees and there are plenty of fighters guilty of similar tactics. Watch Bruno-McCall again if you don't believe me. The last round in particular was a disgrace.

As for Hatton-Tszyu, are you really suggesting that when Hatton walked up to Kostya and blatently punched him in the balls that it had no effect on how Kostya performed for the latter part of the fight? His pissed blood for a week after that fight.

Since you didn't acknowledge it I'll ask again. How can you have double standards by saying Hatton was withing acceptable levels of rule bending but Wlad wasn't? Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and surely by labelling something 'a foul' means it is not acceptable?

i remember one occasion when hatton landed a low blow yes, and it was in reply to tzu doing it just a few seconds before if i remember correctly, tzus was blatent and went unpunished so hatton returned the favour

so yes hatton landed a low blow but i dont remember it being several occasions as you put it, and even if it was 3 (which it wasnt) does that compare to 40 clinches in the first 3 rounds?

the levels of rule bending hatton did was visible, the levels of rule bending wlad does is very much off the scale, hattons tactics approach resembles boxing wlads doesnt, wlads whole appraoch is based on holding, hattons was based on punching

wlad klit is corrupt, money keeps his title not boxing skill

he would no longer be champion if he only bent the rules as much as hatton did

40 clinches in the first 3 rounds, fuck a duck!

If Wlad was British you wouldn't say shit about the fight. You have double standards...seek help

[ElTerribleMorales]

the fight would have been completely different if the fouling had have been stopped

the fight finished and we still dont know who is the best boxer or who would have won in a boxing match

the man doesnt deserve his due or any respect for that performance

a decade of holding is a lie to all involvd in boxing and driven purely by money

Jesus Christ, @El Kabong & @Freedom have come into some criticism for defending Wlad but some people on here need to take off their rose tinted glasses and jog their memory. Us Brits all loved Frank Bruno, but his holding to win the World Title from Oliver McCall was just as bad if not worse than what Wlad did on Saturday. I'd take your argument on board @erics44 if you weren't so in denial that Wlad isn't the only one who does it. Earlier you were basically saying that what Hatton did in the Tszyu fight was within acceptable levels. I'm a huge Hatton fan, I'd say he's one of, if not my all time favourite boxer but he mauled and low blowed Kostya on numerous occasions in that fight and he wasn't admonished by Dave Parris. Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and there shouldn't be a grey area of acceptable levels.

I completely understand being annoyed about it and but banging home double standards in numerous threads is only serving to diminish your argument.

mwaaaaaaaaahaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha

why are you in so much denial that wlad is cheats and is corrupt when it is so obvious

hatton grappled and punched, wlad holds and clinches and grabs then does it again, you cant truely think that the hatton and tzu fight can in any way be compared to the wlad fight on saturday in terms of holding and fouling?

and im not sure your statement about the low blows is entirely true

You are aware holding and hitting is an illegal tactic right?

I'm not defending Wlad. I was sat in front of the TV on Saturday saying how much bullshit it was that he wasn't warned. But you're acting like the problem is limited to 1 fighter, when the truth of the matter is that alot of fighters get away with bullshit calls from corrupt referees and there are plenty of fighters guilty of similar tactics. Watch Bruno-McCall again if you don't believe me. The last round in particular was a disgrace.

As for Hatton-Tszyu, are you really suggesting that when Hatton walked up to Kostya and blatently punched him in the balls that it had no effect on how Kostya performed for the latter part of the fight? His pissed blood for a week after that fight.

Since you didn't acknowledge it I'll ask again. How can you have double standards by saying Hatton was withing acceptable levels of rule bending but Wlad wasn't? Either fouling is acceptable or it is not and surely by labelling something 'a foul' means it is not acceptable?

i remember one occasion when hatton landed a low blow yes, and it was in reply to tzu doing it just a few seconds before if i remember correctly, tzus was blatent and went unpunished so hatton returned the favour

so yes hatton landed a low blow but i dont remember it being several occasions as you put it, and even if it was 3 (which it wasnt) does that compare to 40 clinches in the first 3 rounds?

the levels of rule bending hatton did was visible, the levels of rule bending wlad does is very much off the scale, hattons tactics approach resembles boxing wlads doesnt, wlads whole appraoch is based on holding, hattons was based on punching

wlad klit is corrupt, money keeps his title not boxing skill

he would no longer be champion if he only bent the rules as much as hatton did

40 clinches in the first 3 rounds, fuck a duck!

Hatton landed lowblows on Tszyu on more than one occasion, and the one that's mostly referred to was completely different than the low punch that Tszyu landed cause Ricky purposefuly landed a pinpoint hook on Kostya's balls, don't try playing double standards buddy, cause Hatton's style was just as ugly and dirty as Wlad was on Saturday, he just didn't have the height to be able to put weight on his opponents