How did you score Klitschko v Povetkin?

[erics44]

hatton could have landed 10 it was absolutely nowhere near the amount of fouls wlad commited in any one round of that fight

Amount isn't the issue the issue is either fouling (if it's not called by the ref) is OK or it's NOT and you're saying "Ricky Hatton can foul because he didn't do it as much" and THAT is pure bias.

no im not

and your answers are so far fetched im starting to think you are taking the piss, you dont believe what you are saying do you?

[El Kabong]

no im not

and your answers are so far fetched im starting to think you are taking the piss, you dont believe what you are saying do you?

Your posts are evidence of your bias. You never lament that Hatton fouled when it is brought up you only say "Well when compared to Wlad Hatton did it less" either FOULING is the issue and it's bad eric or it's NOT the issue and you are biased as fuck.

I don't mind how Hatton fought, I don't mind how Holyfield or Hopkins fight. I didn't like how Hopkins would take so many rounds off but nevertheless. The point is if a fighter feels he can get away with doing something which helps his ability to win and the ref doesn't call it then the fighter will continue to do that. For me it doesn't come down to names or country of origin, or race, or style, it's just a broad sweeping if fighter A is not called for rule infraction X then fighter A will continue that infraction if referee B never calls him on it and it's helping fighter A win.

Meanwhile when pressed on this very issue you go back to "Well Ricky didn't foul AS MUCH"...and that's not what you're getting asked. You are getting asked why you haven't ever complained about Hatton's fouling, it's not about how much he did it's the fact Hatton fouled and you never said peep about it ergo your reasoning stumbles upon "fouling was OK when Ricky did it." and that is your bias.

[erics44]

no im not

and your answers are so far fetched im starting to think you are taking the piss, you dont believe what you are saying do you?

Your posts are evidence of your bias. You never lament that Hatton fouled when it is brought up you only say "Well when compared to Wlad Hatton did it less" either FOULING is the issue and it's bad eric or it's NOT the issue and you are biased as fuck.

I don't mind how Hatton fought, I don't mind how Holyfield or Hopkins fight. I didn't like how Hopkins would take so many rounds off but nevertheless. The point is if a fighter feels he can get away with doing something which helps his ability to win and the ref doesn't call it then the fighter will continue to do that. For me it doesn't come down to names or country of origin, or race, or style, it's just a broad sweeping if fighter A is not called for rule infraction X then fighter A will continue that infraction if referee B never calls him on it and it's helping fighter A win.

Meanwhile when pressed on this very issue you go back to "Well Ricky didn't foul AS MUCH"...and that's not what you're getting asked. You are getting asked why you haven't ever complained about Hatton's fouling, it's not about how much he did it's the fact Hatton fouled and you never said peep about it ergo your reasoning stumbles upon "fouling was OK when Ricky did it." and that is your bias.

in england there is a saying (no doubt in america you have taken the saying and made it shit), i wonder if you have heard of it

The pot calling the kettle black

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[El Kabong]

in england there is a saying (no doubt in america you have taken the saying and made it shit), i wonder if you have heard of it

The pot calling the kettle black

?

How am I biased? I've not bitched on and on about fighters fouling and then ONLY stuck up for Wlad. I'm saying fighters in general tend to foul, if the ref doesn't call it and it's helping them win the fight they will continue to do so.

Meanwhile you're saying "Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad" so you're giving Hatton a pass for fouling and that's why you are biased.

[erics44]

in england there is a saying (no doubt in america you have taken the saying and made it shit), i wonder if you have heard of it

The pot calling the kettle black

?

How am I biased? I've not bitched on and on about fighters fouling and then ONLY stuck up for Wlad. I'm saying fighters in general tend to foul, if the ref doesn't call it and it's helping them win the fight they will continue to do so.

Meanwhile you're saying "Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad" so you're giving Hatton a pass for fouling and that's why you are biased.

just let me correct you on one thing

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad"

should actually read

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but in all of Ricky Hattons fights put together the total number of fouls he committed was not as many as Wlad committed in any one round last saturday night"

by the way, if you actually believe that you are not biast i am starting to believe that you actually believe all of the other stuff you are saying too

[ElTerribleMorales]

in england there is a saying (no doubt in america you have taken the saying and made it shit), i wonder if you have heard of it

The pot calling the kettle black

?

How am I biased? I've not bitched on and on about fighters fouling and then ONLY stuck up for Wlad. I'm saying fighters in general tend to foul, if the ref doesn't call it and it's helping them win the fight they will continue to do so.

Meanwhile you're saying "Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad" so you're giving Hatton a pass for fouling and that's why you are biased.

just let me correct you on one thing

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad"

should actually read

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but in all of Ricky Hattons fights put together the total number of fouls he committed was not as many as Wlad committed in any one round last saturday night"

by the way, if you actually believe that you are not biast i am starting to believe that you actually believe all of the other stuff you are saying too

I'm not a big fan of either guy so I'm 100% un-biased, and Ricky Hatton fouled just as badly in plenty of his fights, he looked like a friggin octopus the way he'd clutch and hold on to guys and then lead in with his head and "smother" them, it's just as dirty, so don't get why you're playing him out to be some saint

[El Kabong]

just let me correct you on one thing

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad"

should actually read

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but in all of Ricky Hattons fights put together the total number of fouls he committed was not as many as Wlad committed in any one round last saturday night"

by the way, if you actually believe that you are not biast i am starting to believe that you actually believe all of the other stuff you are saying too

You're missing the point again.

Either holding/clinching is ILLEGAL and therefore both Wlad and Hatton are bad for doing it or Holding/Clinching is fine until the Ref says it's not and Wlad and Hatton are just playing by the rules.

It's one or the other it's not Hatton is great and Wlad is a cheater or vice versa. It's either an acceptable strategy or it isn't don't parse the argument, it's binary, it's wrong or it isn't there's no grey area here

[erics44]

just let me correct you on one thing

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad"

should actually read

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but in all of Ricky Hattons fights put together the total number of fouls he committed was not as many as Wlad committed in any one round last saturday night"

by the way, if you actually believe that you are not biast i am starting to believe that you actually believe all of the other stuff you are saying too

You're missing the point again.

Either holding/clinching is ILLEGAL and therefore both Wlad and Hatton are bad for doing it or Holding/Clinching is fine until the Ref says it's not and Wlad and Hatton are just playing by the rules.

It's one or the other it's not Hatton is great and Wlad is a cheater or vice versa. It's either an acceptable strategy or it isn't don't parse the argument, it's binary, it's wrong or it isn't there's no grey area here

no im not, youre missing the point, fact

[erics44]

just let me correct you on one thing

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but not as much as Wlad"

should actually read

"Ricky Hatton fouled, but in all of Ricky Hattons fights put together the total number of fouls he committed was not as many as Wlad committed in any one round last saturday night"

by the way, if you actually believe that you are not biast i am starting to believe that you actually believe all of the other stuff you are saying too

You're missing the point again.

Either holding/clinching is ILLEGAL and therefore both Wlad and Hatton are bad for doing it or Holding/Clinching is fine until the Ref says it's not and Wlad and Hatton are just playing by the rules.

It's one or the other it's not Hatton is great and Wlad is a cheater or vice versa. It's either an acceptable strategy or it isn't don't parse the argument, it's binary, it's wrong or it isn't there's no grey area here

by the way, if you want to compare the situation with other sports and the level of fouling lets do that

a typical football match perhaps has 15 to 20 fouls perhaps in the 90 minutes, resulting in free kicks and perhaps a penalty or two. Some matches have 1 or 2 yellow cards, some 3 or 4, some have 5 or 6. some of those matches are dirtier than others but all within the acceptable and normal level of dirtyness

on saturday night Klitchko FC played Provetkin FC in a huge internation match, the klitchkos referee arrived at the stadium driving the porche which the evenings pay packet had bought him with the initial payment, the rest of the money would be delivered on certain promises of performance

the game kicks off, the Klitchko players are kicking and handballing and scratching and leg sweeping and pulling the shorts down of the opposition from the very start an no free kicks are given

towards the end of the game the ref awards a penalty (the first foul that he has given against the klit fc) to Provetkin FC the score being 12 - 0 to Klit FC.

the whistle blows and Klit FC comfortably win the game and remain the champions

the ref has delivered on his promises and the receives the remainder of his pay cheque, goes home and books a nice holiday

just added the point above to highlight the meaning of acceptable levels of foul play in any sport