At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust

[Mr140]

I think Haye, Bryde and Bewster would do just fine in the shit division that was the 1980's really people going over board on this last fight. i know the man clinched to much we get it he should of just finished him i understand but him being champ for ever doesn't get erased by last night Wald so much hate. Also why is he not a great role model he does not rape people, have billion kids he doesn't pay for, not a racist, didn't kill anyone and doesn't do drugs. He is a well educated man who does a lot of charity and respectable just because he boring doesn't change the person he is come on now guys.

[Gandalf]

I think Haye, Bryde and Bewster would do just fine in the shit division that was the 1980's really people going over board on this last fight. i know the man clinched to much we get it he should of just finished him i understand but him being champ for ever doesn't get erased by last night Wald so much hate. Also why is he not a great role model he does not rape people, have billion kids he doesn't pay for, not a racist, didn't kill anyone and doesn't do drugs. He is a well educated man who does a lot of charity and respectable just because he boring doesn't change the person he is come on now guys.

Tyson would walk through them all and would dismantle Wlad within 2 rounds. The problem with Tyson is that revisionists like Lyle equate a 1990's post jail Tyson with what was in existance in the mid to late '80's. It's a silly comparison.

The reason Wlad gets picked on is because he is a crappy excuse for a fighter. Now if you want to be a role model for the kids then punching someone in the head is a weird choice to make. A professional fighter has a role to play and that is that of a fighter following the rules of the ring. He cannot make up his own rules and cheat a paying audience. In that sense Wlad is no different to a ponzi scheme, 'Invest in me and I will rip you off and laugh all the way to the bank whilst the authorities turn a blind eye'.

It's called a con.

[erics44]

I think Haye, Bryde and Bewster would do just fine in the shit division that was the 1980's really people going over board on this last fight. i know the man clinched to much we get it he should of just finished him i understand but him being champ for ever doesn't get erased by last night Wald so much hate. Also why is he not a great role model he does not rape people, have billion kids he doesn't pay for, not a racist, didn't kill anyone and doesn't do drugs. He is a well educated man who does a lot of charity and respectable just because he boring doesn't change the person he is come on now guys.

are these the only things that stop you being a role model?

[Mr140]

Eric i don't ask much of people don't kill, don't rape, take care of your kids and if you do drugs handle your shit and keep it to yourself we all party. As for Tyson Gan he never beat a true elite heavyweight in his time either and his division was crap. His lose to Douglas is i think worst then all Walds combined he was a 40 to fucking 1 going into that fight. That being said Tyson is a top ten and Wlad keeps winning he will be to he is not fun to watch but i am not going write him off against others in 80's shit division. also forgot that don't hate on people because of there skin ton either.

[erics44]

Eric i don't ask much of people don't kill, don't rape, take care of your kids and if you do drugs handle your shit and keep it to yourself we all party. As for Tyson Gan he never beat a true elite heavyweight in his time either and his division was crap. His lose to Douglas is i think worst then all Walds combined he was a 40 to fucking 1 going into that fight. That being said Tyson is a top ten and Wlad keeps winning he will be to he is not fun to watch but i am not going write him off against others in 80's shit division. also forgot that don't hate on people because of there skin ton either.

im not sure what any of that means, sounds like a rant

[Mr140]

I heaven't sleep in a while my bad i was answering your question that's all i really think that keeps you from being a role model if your doing well. The other part was for Gan not for you i kinda put them together anyway i don't feel this hw division is not much weaker then most of the decades. Tyson he doesn't have any huge wins better then Wlad expect a Old Holmes who had not fought for few years. Also his lose to Douglas is worse then any of the loses Wald ever had really. We get Wlads boring i been hearing it for ever but he been winning for a while and hasn't been close to losing in 10 years.

[Mr140]

Ok so in Tyson's prime he beat a bunch of bums beat a 38 year old Holmes coming out of retirement, a guy who was a great lhw and then lost to a sub par guy who was 40 to 1 to lose to him. I mean come on nothing but excuses for Tyson never hear that shit about Holyfeild or Ali and they went through hell and back still manged to keep going. I mean this fight has kinda made the the old times look to good and the current times look worse then they really are but soon so you guys can be happy because the brothers will be gone and people can be competitive again.

[erics44]

I heaven't sleep in a while my bad i was answering your question that's all i really think that keeps you from being a role model if your doing well. The other part was for Gan not for you i kinda put them together anyway i don't feel this hw division is not much weaker then most of the decades. Tyson he doesn't have any huge wins better then Wlad expect a Old Holmes who had not fought for few years. Also his lose to Douglas is worse then any of the loses Wald ever had really. We get Wlads boring i been hearing it for ever but he been winning for a while and hasn't been close to losing in 10 years.

this is all opinions

we are not discussing who is the best wlad or Tyson we are discussing the extreme levels of cheating wlad gets away with highlighting the corruption around his fights and as a result discrediting his reign

its been mentioned many times on here that he would have beaten provetkin anyway, but they have just fought for 12 rounds and we still dont know who would win 1 round at boxing never mind who would win a championship fight

[Gandalf]

Tyson didn't train well and had a bad day at the office. Wlad at the same age had lost to far inferior fighters than Tyson did. Not only lost, but got flattened each time. Tyson was stopped only once in around 40 fights. Tyson had a great chin even at his worst thus no early round blowouts. Post jail Tyson is a pointless discussion as he wasn't the same and mental demons had taken over completely as evidenced by his own boxing and criminal history. Mad as a hatter.