Question on Early Tyson's Jab Mechanics

[greynotsoold]

look at how bad his feet are at the end of each clip.

After I studied Tyson for a while, I begin to see many technical "mistakes" in the sense that it all could have been done better, more perfect like Cus demanded. But I guess what worked was the huge element of surprise about his style in general, since most of the opponents simply did not know what to do with it at all

I always thought that he fought like a bantamweight, if that makes sense? As HWs get bigger, they lose mobility and agility, and he fought like a smaller fighter. Like Dempsey.
I don't know if those imperfections were short of what Cus demanded, or just a part of the style. Being squared up like that- on your feet- is a problem to begin with.

[Andre]

Well he never suffered from under commitment thats for sure. He even went for lead uppercuts,hook arms out the way before moving in square and would at times block stuff with his forehead so he could stay in tight.
He took some sloppy techniques and made them strengths through overcommitment.
Till he got caught out by someone not intimidated who could counter as hard as he gave then the wheels fell off.
It was a great time to see someone fight with such faith and abandonment though.
He would of scared the life out of me if you couldnt hurt him with a counter you were in big trouble within seconds.

[BCBUD]

look at how bad his feet are at the end of each clip.

After I studied Tyson for a while, I begin to see many technical "mistakes" in the sense that it all could have been done better, more perfect like Cus demanded. But I guess what worked was the huge element of surprise about his style in general, since most of the opponents simply did not know what to do with it at all

I always thought that he fought like a bantamweight, if that makes sense? As HWs get bigger, they lose mobility and agility, and he fought like a smaller fighter. Like Dempsey.
I don't know if those imperfections were short of what Cus demanded, or just a part of the style. Being squared up like that- on your feet- is a problem to begin with.

Wouldn't he have to square up being the smaller man?

[OMGWTF]

He thew 2 types of jab most of teh time, a hip powered jab with a push off, and a typical arm jab (typically following the hip one when he x2 up) he leant to the side to avoid the counter, just like you would slip and jab except its from his square on stance so its slightly different, the leaning to the side is not part of the mechanics of the jab he just slips often cause he has to get inside.

[Andre]

Maybe a touch of what you see is from him naturally being so imposing too,that slip to the inside: would also be for initial reach and to get face on to the oppositions center line which position he loved to bang from. Even though squared up a lot and over reaching at times not too many were aggressive enough to catch him out.He got away with a lot of stuff other fighters wouldnt. Hell, some of his opponents were mentally already in survival mode during the walk in.

[Scrap]

All movement is instigated from your hips, its your centre of gravity.