Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

[Master]

Wlad is better than his brother now but at their best Vitali may have won although he is very robotic he is more sturdy. Wlad is a difficult fighter to beat for any of the greats but I would have him outside of the top ten. Wlad still has a bit more to go.

Any threat and he fights scared.

Against Vitali he'd have tried holding and leaning but against someone his own size who isn't just a punch bag he would wilt.

If Fury fights Wlad next year and wins, does this wipe out any notion of Wlad ever being a top heavy in history?

Wlad was very disappointing against Povetkin but his consistency against the crap that is out there has to be admired. Joe Louis and Holmes had it but it is very difficult to stay motivated and be consistent. This is why I have Wlad that high.

[ross]

Wlad is better than his brother now but at their best Vitali may have won although he is very robotic he is more sturdy. Wlad is a difficult fighter to beat for any of the greats but I would have him outside of the top ten. Wlad still has a bit more to go.

Any threat and he fights scared.

Against Vitali he'd have tried holding and leaning but against someone his own size who isn't just a punch bag he would wilt.

If Fury fights Wlad next year and wins, does this wipe out any notion of Wlad ever being a top heavy in history?

Wlad was very disappointing against Povetkin but his consistency against the crap that is out there has to be admired. Joe Louis and Holmes had it but it is very difficult to stay motivated and be consistent. This is why I have Wlad that high.

I agree with that but its not as impressive as doing that as THE only heavyweight champ.

Lets imagine Vitali didnt exist.

Would Wlad go for unification? How long would he last as unified champ?

[El Kabong]

I agree with that but its not as impressive as doing that as THE only heavyweight champ.

Lets imagine Vitali didnt exist.

Would Wlad go for unification? How long would he last as unified champ?

OK, let's imagine Vitali doesn't exist and Wlad fights everyone he's fought AND everyone Vitali has fought since his comeback.

Do YOU see anyone beating Wlad? I sure as shit don't. Cris Arreola would have been dangerous for a round or 4 but second half of the fight, no way. Briggs is always dangerous for A big punch, but Wlad doesn't give opportunities to land the 1 big punch. Adamek would have been easy, Wlad could beat Sam Peter a third time no problem, Kevin Johnson offered nothing I think Wlad would have had an easier time with him, and Stiverne? Meh...another guy looking for 1 shot.

[ross]

All ifs and buts.

He needs to either fight and beat Vitali or Vitali to retire right now so Wlad has a chance to win his title and defend all of them. While Vitali is around Wlad isnt the best because they refuse to fight each other. I belive Vitali wins but regardless, that unkown is holding back any real regard or legacy because in the future it will always be questioned because of his brother.