do people actually think that bhop beats hagler?

[Beanflicker]

I don't mind people picking Hagler (truth be told I like Hagler a HELL OF A LOT more than I like Bhop), but there's way too much BS being spoken here about Bhop.

It's strange that to this day people still underestimate Bhop and don't understand his style or what he brings to the table.

Someone above even said "bhop likes to fight at his own pace, hagler would push the pace on him". That right there shows a complete inability to grasp what Bhop actually does.

[IamInuit]

I don't mind people picking Hagler (truth be told I like Hagler a HELL OF A LOT more than I like Bhop), but there's way too much BS being spoken here about Bhop.

It's strange that to this day people still underestimate Bhop and don't understand his style or what he brings to the table.

Someone above even said "bhop likes to fight at his own pace, hagler would push the pace on him". That right there shows a complete inability to grasp what Bhop actually does.

And almost worship a guy in Monzon who might have fought 2 B level middleweights over a career or maybe 3 if you include Denny Moyer. Most of Monzons career is spoon fed like the 7-6-3 Estra in 69 or Eddie Pace in 1970 who was 32-22-1 followed by Rosa who was 7-2-0 then jumping to the always dangerous Guerrero in 1971 who was 3-5-1 at the time.

I don't like to use these terms to much but here you have the most overrated fighter in history or at least one of them verses perhaps the most underrated of all time.

[Beanflicker]

And almost worship a guy in Monzon who might have fought 2 B level middleweights over a career or maybe 3 if you include Denny Moyer. Most of Monzons career is spoon fed like the 7-6-3 Estra in 69 or Eddie Pace in 1970 who was 32-22-1 followed by Rosa who was 7-2-0 then jumping to the always dangerous Guerrero in 1971 who was 3-5-1 at the time.

I don't like to use these terms to much but here you have the most overrated fighter in history or at least one of them verses perhaps the most underrated of all time.

I think it's a case of the "golden age" bias, especially with a guy like Monzon who never lost in his prime.

Take modern greats like Bhop and Floyd, people will go through their records with a fine-toothed comb and tell you why every win they had was rubbish, how they're boring, how they ducked and dodged so and so.

But when you bring up an old timer like Monzon, people just look at the impressive number without digging deeper and critically thinking about the level of comp, ect.

I like Monzon and think he was a great fighter, but I don't buy him as the unbeatable, unstoppable demi-god of the MW division that seems to be the consensus opinion.

To me, prime BHop gives any MW in history fits.