Glen Tapia rushed to trauma center after fight

[Spicoli]

I'm really glad he has checked out and looks alright. Kid was in a blender after the 1st but I do think the ref, Dr. as well as corner shoulder this one. Smoger tells him "you cannot take severe head shots or I'll stop it" then he proceeds to take 3 minutes and is green lighted for another round after. The corner was wreckless and choked but the whole scenario went from glorious pumped up dramatic to crash course reality denied within 5,8 minutes of the fight. The officials let them lobby another chance and blinked on facts. Shame on all of em. Anytime the theme and fat mouth Lampley is proclaiming you "THE NEXT ARTURO GATTI" ffs. They all lost the plot in that one.

[Max Power]

I'm really glad he has checked out and looks alright. Kid was in a blender after the 1st but I do think the ref, Dr. as well as corner shoulder this one. Smoger tells him "you cannot take severe head shots or I'll stop it" then he proceeds to take 3 minutes and is green lighted for another round after. The corner was wreckless and choked but the whole scenario went from glorious pumped up dramatic to crash course reality denied within 5,8 minutes of the fight. The officials let them lobby another chance and blinked on facts. Shame on all of em. Anytime the theme and fat mouth Lampley is proclaiming you "THE NEXT ARTURO GATTI" ffs. They all lost the plot in that one.

In the words of Larry Merchant... "We're not disagreeing enough" lol

[Fenster]

I thought his corner was trying to get him killed. But also the doctor and Smoger should have stopped it before the final round. If you need a doctor in the ring in consectutive rounds it's pretty fucking obvious the guy isn't improving.

[Silkeyjoe]

Smoger was a disgrace. I said it in the actual fight thread. Apart from the late stoppage when he stopped the fight he just pawed at them and meant Tapia took one huge unneccesary shot after Smoger had stopped the fight. U need to dive between the fighters to stop it.

Refs get stick for stopping fights too soon but Smoger should really be pulled up on this one. Smoger gives fighters every chance to show they can continue, he also gives them every chance to wind up brain dead.

[erics44]

i agree with this thread, but wasnt we all saying george groves should have been allowed to take more punishment last week?

how fine is the line?

[Fenster]

i agree with this thread, but wasnt we all saying george groves should have been allowed to take more punishment last week?

how fine is the line?

It's not even in the same ball park (that's an American saying, I know you hate that stuff)

Tapia took a savage beating, so bad the ref was calling the doctor to check him between rounds.

[smashup]

i agree with this thread, but wasnt we all saying george groves should have been allowed to take more punishment last week?

how fine is the line?

It's not even in the same ball park (that's an American saying, I know you hate that stuff)

Tapia took a savage beating, so bad the ref was calling the doctor to check him between rounds.

What happened with Groves cant be compared to Tapia , Groves only took a few shots.
Kirkland broke the Compubox stats record which were all obviously landing on Tapias head and torso

http://www.boxingscene.com/kirklands-battering-tapia-breaks-compubox-record--72547

[Beanflicker]

i agree with this thread, but wasnt we all saying george groves should have been allowed to take more punishment last week?

how fine is the line?

It's not so much an issue of the amout of punishment recieved, as it is someone being phsyically and mentally spent, and sent out to take more punishment.

Like I said before, I have absolutely no problem with Abdusalamov's corner not stopping the fight, even though he was taking a lot of flush bombs, because Abdusalamov was ALWAYS in the fight. He was pressing forward and throwing punches, and actively trying to win the fight.

From the 3rd round on (or maybe even earlier, I forget) it was evident that Tapia punched himself out and was gassed badly, so much so that he could no longer keep Kirkland at bay, and he was taking a plastering. If he still had the energy to fight on, I'd have no problem with his corner.

But his corner knew he was fucked and kept saying "I need you to get a second wind." Kirkland isn't going to give you a chance to get a second wind: he's going to club you to death.

When a man no longer has the will or the physical capabilities to fight on, the fight should be stopped.

Difference with Groves being of course that Groves was always in the fight. Even though he was hurt badly, he had the energy and will to fight on and win, so he should have been given a chance.

[beenKOed]

I always liked Smoger as a referee until Murat vs Hopkins, where he allowed Hopkins to take control of the fight.
Now it seems Smoger can't make a decision by himself, if the ring doctor or a fighters corner will not stop the fight, neither will Smoger.
A referee has two primary concerns, protecting the fighters and enforcing the rules. Smoger has shown in Murat vs Hopkins and Tapia vs Kirkland that he can do neither.
Mr Smoger should retire or be retired, what he is supposed to do in the ring is too important to allow him to continue.