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    Default Re: Could tonight have gone any worse for Broner?

    As much as it was nice to see Broner lose, that was a great, competitive fight and he did come back strong in the championship rounds to his credit. Dare I say if that had gone 15 Broner probably would have gotten Maidana out of there. He's got a lot to work on but the upside is there, and he can beat some good fighters and be an interesting addition to whatever division he's going to compete in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As much as it was nice to see Broner lose, that was a great, competitive fight and he did come back strong in the championship rounds to his credit. Dare I say if that had gone 15 Broner probably would have gotten Maidana out of there. He's got a lot to work on but the upside is there, and he can beat some good fighters and be an interesting addition to whatever division he's going to compete in.
    Maidana was mainly hurt by the sucker punch though, that ruined his 12th. Broner is ballsy for sure though. I was more concerned in the 5th and 6th when he appeared to be getting some rhythm. Really, you have to wonder why Broner was fast tracked to WW. Not really worth it in the end.

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    Default Re: Could tonight have gone any worse for Broner?

    Yea could be, I watched it on a stream that got a bit choppy so couldn't tell how long after the bell that actually was. I was pretty annoyed by the constant raking with elbows and theatrics, but that's boxing and he wasn't getting warned much. Maidana was definitely wearing out and hurt in the 11th though, if Broner wasn't such a spoonfed asshole people would just be talking about what a good fight that was.

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    After crying himself to sleep, Broner waking up to a text message from his gf and its a picture of Maidanas cock in her mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As much as it was nice to see Broner lose, that was a great, competitive fight and he did come back strong in the championship rounds to his credit. Dare I say if that had gone 15 Broner probably would have gotten Maidana out of there. He's got a lot to work on but the upside is there, and he can beat some good fighters and be an interesting addition to whatever division he's going to compete in.
    Maidana was mainly hurt by the sucker punch though, that ruined his 12th. Broner is ballsy for sure though. I was more concerned in the 5th and 6th when he appeared to be getting some rhythm. Really, you have to wonder why Broner was fast tracked to WW. Not really worth it in the end.
    Was definitely an entertaining fight and had my full attention from beginning to end. I was anxious during the middle rounds too.
    Broner made a mistake going to WW, it's as simple as that, in my opinion.

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    Another rewatch down. He is so so heavy on his feet, his defence is really only from the waist up...feet in front of everything and standing straight with head high and easily knocked out of position. He needs to retool his basics and fundamentals or I honestly don't see him having an extended career at all.

    I didn't see Maidana on the verge or gassed at all in 12th, both were hit clean and Broner ate a left that stiffened him. He was also warned harshly (again) there, and got a clear pass for hitting Maidana after the bell in 11th.

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    It could have been worse. His trainer could have got tired of being talked to like a dog and wrapped the towel around Broner's neck and choked him before the last round.
    Broner is too square up to use his shoulder effectively- his left hip and shoulder are too open- or to get turned on a right hand. I noticed in the last round that he was punching with loose wrists, maybe because he was tired, or maybe it is something he does a lot and I just didn't think to look for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    It could have been worse. His trainer could have got tired of being talked to like a dog and wrapped the towel around Broner's neck and choked him before the last round.
    Broner is too square up to use his shoulder effectively- his left hip and shoulder are too open- or to get turned on a right hand. I noticed in the last round that he was punching with loose wrists, maybe because he was tired, or maybe it is something he does a lot and I just didn't think to look for it.
    You noticed he was being disrespectful to his trainer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    It could have been worse. His trainer could have got tired of being talked to like a dog and wrapped the towel around Broner's neck and choked him before the last round.
    Broner is too square up to use his shoulder effectively- his left hip and shoulder are too open- or to get turned on a right hand. I noticed in the last round that he was punching with loose wrists, maybe because he was tired, or maybe it is something he does a lot and I just didn't think to look for it.
    You noticed he was being disrespectful to his trainer?

    Yea to all his corner, I noticed a few times. He'd be telling the to chill out, get the fuck out of the ring etc, just didn't want to hear anything. I don't know who trains him though and there was a total lack of urgency in there when he was way behind, so maybe they don't deserve much respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    It could have been worse. His trainer could have got tired of being talked to like a dog and wrapped the towel around Broner's neck and choked him before the last round.
    Broner is too square up to use his shoulder effectively- his left hip and shoulder are too open- or to get turned on a right hand. I noticed in the last round that he was punching with loose wrists, maybe because he was tired, or maybe it is something he does a lot and I just didn't think to look for it.
    He does get a little slappy. I think alot of it is because he is out of position too. Either inside with flat feet or leaves them there..wide..while his torso tries to lean back, twist and defend. The shoulder thing is just lipstick on the pig really. Almost like his body is working against itself, not unified.

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    Yeah man just rewatched it as well in way better quality. Maidana wasn't in nearly as bad shape towards the end as I thought watching live, must've just been my nerves running high. He actually won the 11th for me and was only really buzzed once in the 12th. The headbutt in the 8th was nothing also, it looked way worse to me the first time. Maidana simply lodged his head under Broners to try and free his arms up since Broner was holding on for dear life. The delayed reaction going down from Broner was a crock of shit and he wanted out of the fight at that moment. I don't know that there is a whole lot for Broner to retool, he is so set in trying to use that shell and he really won't get away with it because his feet are cinder blocks as you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As much as it was nice to see Broner lose, that was a great, competitive fight and he did come back strong in the championship rounds to his credit. Dare I say if that had gone 15 Broner probably would have gotten Maidana out of there.
    I think so too. I don't think the sucker punch had anything to do with it. Maidana was completely spent by that time after throwing over double the punches Broner did.

    To Broner's credit, he's durable as fuck. He took a ton of brutal body punishment along with the concussive knockdowns, and he was still fresh and strong in the later rounds.

    Broner is a natural fighter, nobody can take that away from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Outside of getting KO'd?

    I noticed a lot of empty seats, showing that he isn't really captivating the nation like he thinks he is.

    Then he gets put on his ass twice, wobbled numerous times, hurt, and IMO dominated by a guy who was supposed to be a stepping stone to big marquee fights.

    Then he shamelessly tries to milk a weak headbutt, making a fool of himself as he was looking for a way out.

    Then he loses his 0, and instead of sticking around he runs away, getting pelted by cups and other debris from the crowd.

    Completely humbled, completely stripped of his dignity all around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Life and death with Paulie and now fucked up by Maidana. And lest we forget the PDL robbery. Broner has been given an easy ride and now it is time for him to either work his way back or just bugger off.
    Agree completely with both these posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As much as it was nice to see Broner lose, that was a great, competitive fight and he did come back strong in the championship rounds to his credit. Dare I say if that had gone 15 Broner probably would have gotten Maidana out of there. He's got a lot to work on but the upside is there, and he can beat some good fighters and be an interesting addition to whatever division he's going to compete in.
    I thought Maidana was out of gas a few times, but he hung in there.
    Dare I say if the fight had gone 15, Broner's corner would not have urged him to go for the KO, at all costs, until the 14th and Maidana would have hung in there with his winning ways.
    I like ifs, ands or buts too, but not when Broner is getting his comeuppance.

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    Default Re: Could tonight have gone any worse for Broner?

    Everything seemed to go wrong for him but on the plus side it was a very entertaining fight and everyone loved it. That tells me Broner will be in exciting fights going forward because he didn't run even after being dropped twice. He was still coming forward in round 12 vs a puncher two weights above him.

    The fastback to welter obviously backfired but I'd rather watch that type of fight than a brash guy who talks the talk but runs in the ring. Floyd gets bood in almost every fight but it's kept his zero in tact.

    Congrats to Maidana. Long time coming and it was well deserved. Clear winner IMO

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