Does anyone think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder?

[TitoFan]

People shouldn't fret so much for Zimmerman. Both he and his ex-wife stand to become millionaires after getting books published, movies made, and apparently selling paintings.

[Beanflicker]

People shouldn't fret so much for Zimmerman. Both he and his ex-wife stand to become millionaires after getting books published, movies made, and apparently selling paintings.

I don't know if Zimmerman's side of the story is gonna be a big seller. People are wrapped up in this image of a racist white man stalking and gunning down a young black child in cold blood. That's what people want to believe. The truth of what happened isn't as sexy.

[TitoFan]

People shouldn't fret so much for Zimmerman. Both he and his ex-wife stand to become millionaires after getting books published, movies made, and apparently selling paintings.

I don't know if Zimmerman's side of the story is gonna be a big seller. People are wrapped up in this image of a racist white man stalking and gunning down a young black child in cold blood. That's what people want to believe. The truth of what happened isn't as sexy.

The press has certainly done this case a complete disservice. Personally, I don't think Zimmerman is either as "guilt-free" as some of you believe, nor do I buy into the sensationalism that includes posting pictures of Martin as a young innocent kid. The real truth involves fault on both sides, which is why I think Zimmerman deserves some type of punishment.

Regarding his story..... that's what publicists are for. Georgie will certainly get coaxed into selling a version of the story that will sell. And people will line up for blocks just to buy whatever there is out there regarding the story. Oh, I think Zimmerman will do just fine down the line.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Zimmerman is about that american dream. Gotta give him credit.

[Beanflicker]

The press has certainly done this case a complete disservice. Personally, I don't think Zimmerman is either as "guilt-free" as some of you believe, nor do I buy into the sensationalism that includes posting pictures of Martin as a young innocent kid. The real truth involves fault on both sides, which is why I think Zimmerman deserves some type of punishment.

Regarding his story..... that's what publicists are for. Georgie will certainly get coaxed into selling a version of the story that will sell. And people will line up for blocks just to buy whatever there is out there regarding the story. Oh, I think Zimmerman will do just fine down the line.

For sure, and I said from day one that I'm not standing up for Zimmerman as a guy. He sounds like a douchey, wanna-be cop busy-body. He's also said a lot of messed up shit (this was god's plan, ect). On a personal level, I don't like Zimmerman.

But the fact is, LEGALLY there was only one crime committed on that night, and the crime was committed by Treyvon. There's really nothing you can punish Zimmerman for legally. It's fine to say "well common sense says he shouldn't have followed", ect, but legally he did nothing wrong. You can follow anyone you want unless they have a restraining order against you.

I just don't see Zimmerman making good with this. Even with OJ Simpson, where OJ quite clearly was guilty of those two murders, he was such a beloved figure that he had tons of people on his side.

How do you sell Zimmerman to the public? Everyone hates him.

[El Kabong]

George Zimmerman is royally screwed. He's in a very tough spot partly because of his own actions but MAINLY due to an overzealous media.

If Zimmerman was wrong for following Trayvon then the media is even MORE wrong in how they initially covered the story. The way the media covered the story I was surprised that George wasn't strung up by the highest tree in all of Florida people were just that angry because of what the media had whipped up and ON PURPOSE! They edited 911 tapes for fucks sake!

I don't trust the media, they are slaves to their ratings and to their liberal ideals and believe you me every single news anchor on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and even a few on Fox News are liberal hacks. They don't report the news they create a Soap Opera storyline for the idiots that still pay attention to them to follow. They don't present facts they present a view of the world filled with their biases and agendas. And that's why there was outrage over what the 'Duck Dynasty' guy said and what Paula Deen said and 0 outrage over what Alec Baldwin and Al Sharpton have said.

[Beanflicker]

George Zimmerman is royally screwed. He's in a very tough spot partly because of his own actions but MAINLY due to an overzealous media.

If Zimmerman was wrong for following Trayvon then the media is even MORE wrong in how they initially covered the story. The way the media covered the story I was surprised that George wasn't strung up by the highest tree in all of Florida people were just that angry because of what the media had whipped up and ON PURPOSE! They edited 911 tapes for fucks sake!

I don't trust the media, they are slaves to their ratings and to their liberal ideals and believe you me every single news anchor on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and even a few on Fox News are liberal hacks. They don't report the news they create a Soap Opera storyline for the idiots that still pay attention to them to follow. They don't present facts they present a view of the world filled with their biases and agendas. And that's why there was outrage over what the 'Duck Dynasty' guy said and what Paula Deen said and 0 outrage over what Alec Baldwin and Al Sharpton have said.

For sure. We live in such a highly-sensitive, righteously indignant culture and that is perpetuated by mainstream media.

IMO it's a sickness. It's like Tony Montana said, everybody wants to be able to point their finger and say "see, that's the bad guy".

[imp]

People shouldn't fret so much for Zimmerman. Both he and his ex-wife stand to become millionaires after getting books published, movies made, and apparently selling paintings.

I don't know if Zimmerman's side of the story is gonna be a big seller. People are wrapped up in this image of a racist white man stalking and gunning down a young black child in cold blood. That's what people want to believe. The truth of what happened isn't as sexy.

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

[Beanflicker]

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

Well we kinda did have a black George Zimmerman, named Roderick Scott.

40 year old Roderick Scott, a black man, confronted a 17 year old white kid who was breaking into cars on his neighbourhood. Roderick pulled out a gun and ordered the kid to freeze until the cops came. The kid apparently started coming towards Scott, so he opened fire, killing the kid.

Charges were completely dropped.

I doubt many people (if any) here have heard about this case. It doesn't make for such a compelling story when it's the other way around.

[El Kabong]

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

Well we kinda did have a black George Zimmerman, named Roderick Scott.

40 year old Roderick Scott, a black man, confronted a 17 year old white kid who was breaking into cars on his neighbourhood. Roderick pulled out a gun and ordered the kid to freeze until the cops came. The kid apparently started coming towards Scott, so he opened fire, killing the kid.

Charges were completely dropped.

I doubt many people (if any) here have heard about this case. It doesn't make for such a compelling story when it's the other way around.

Doesn't fit the media agenda

[Beanflicker]

For sure.

I was reading about an anti-Zimmerman painting that got taken off of Ebay a week or so ago.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-conten...12/hoodies.jpg

The painting itself sums up the ignorance perpetrated by the media: the big, bad, card-carrying Klan member who was just YEARNING to off a black person for years stalks and guns down a tiny black child.

You can count on one hand the national media outlets that saw it fit to include little facts like...

-Zimmerman is half Latino, and has always identified himself as "latino" on any official form that asks for race.

-Zimmerman has black people in his family.

-Zimmerman took a black girl to his prom.

-Zimmerman tutored/mentored young black youth.

-Zimmerman helped organize/participate a movement to have a white man who pummeled a homeless black man charged with a hate crime.

But hey, that doesn't get people watching. Race wars get people watching.

[VictorCharlie]

@Andre they found all the guns in Australia. I'd like to point out some stupidity though. There is no glock that costs 10k and I've never heard of a modern rifle worth 50k.

Australian police find 328 guns, 4.2 tons of ammo at farm - World News

[Beanz]

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

Well we kinda did have a black George Zimmerman, named Roderick Scott.

40 year old Roderick Scott, a black man, confronted a 17 year old white kid who was breaking into cars on his neighbourhood. Roderick pulled out a gun and ordered the kid to freeze until the cops came. The kid apparently started coming towards Scott, so he opened fire, killing the kid.

Charges were completely dropped.

I doubt many people (if any) here have heard about this case. It doesn't make for such a compelling story when it's the other way around.

That would have been met with the same disbelief here in Europe and in the UK people would expect to see him charged with murder. Its not about race. The idea that only white people are capable of racism is also a ridiculous one, some latinos and asian bigots are often much more vociferously anti black than white people, so that is a red herring.

[El Kabong]

The idea that only white people are capable of racism is also a ridiculous one

Tell that to Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the entire MSNBC network

[Beanz]

What part of "its not about race" do you not understand?