Pacquiao calls Mayweather coward for refusing to fight

[ruthless rocco]

Marciano is believed by many to have fought Old fighter`s who were well past their prime...Do you deny his Greatness...?

The same could be said about many fighters.

But there isnt a fighter in Marciano's time that could claim greatest of his era in which he supposedly ducked. We dont look back and say well he didnt fight _____. And hurt the sport bad.

If they dont fight we at least know Floyd himself said he doesnt want to fight him because he is concerned for his health. No problem there but knowing this, does Floyd deserve to be put on top of the mountain with the Ali's who sacrificed everything to beat everyone so they could be claimed as the greatest?

Not in my opinion but to each his own.

And look at ALI now...
If that's what it takes to be the greatest who would want to?

Ali would.

Thats why he is generally considered to be the greatest (not saying he is but in general). He wanted it that bad. Not only that he had the skill.

Even those who have this combination arent usually lucky to come out on top especially in the shark pit Ali was in, which makes Ali even greater imo.

You think that Ali is happy to be in the terrible condition he's in?

You think that had he know that he'd and up as helpless and immobile as he is today that he wouldn't have changed the way he chose to fight?

Are you stubborn or stupid or both?

[cambay411]

Marciano is believed by many to have fought Old fighter`s who were well past their prime...Do you deny his Greatness...?

The same could be said about many fighters.

But there isnt a fighter in Marciano's time that could claim greatest of his era in which he supposedly ducked. We dont look back and say well he didnt fight _____. And hurt the sport bad.

If they dont fight we at least know Floyd himself said he doesnt want to fight him because he is concerned for his health. No problem there but knowing this, does Floyd deserve to be put on top of the mountain with the Ali's who sacrificed everything to beat everyone so they could be claimed as the greatest?

Not in my opinion but to each his own.

And look at ALI now...
If that's what it takes to be the greatest who would want to?

Ali would.

Thats why he is generally considered to be the greatest (not saying he is but in general). He wanted it that bad. Not only that he had the skill.

Even those who have this combination arent usually lucky to come out on top especially in the shark pit Ali was in, which makes Ali even greater imo.

You think that Ali is happy to be in the terrible condition he's in?

You think that had he know that he'd and up as helpless and immobile as he is today that he wouldn't have changed the way he chose to fight?

Are you stubborn or stupid or both?

Im pretty sure hes said many times he wouldnt change a thing and wishes he could do it all over.

I wish I had the courage, skill, heart and toughness of Ali.

Ali was put on earth to do be the baddest man on the planet and thats what he did. He would do it again.

Considering what he did inside the ring and outside the ring, I would say its a safe bet he has no regrets.

[ruthless rocco]

Im pretty sure hes said many times he wouldnt change a thing and wishes he could do it all over.

I wish I had the courage, skill, heart and toughness of Ali.

Ali was put on earth to do be the baddest man on the planet and thats what he did. He would do it again.

Considering what he did inside the ring and outside the ring, I would say its a safe bet he has no regrets.

I don't believe it. He wouldn't change a thing because he can't change a thing. He's accepted it. ..but had he been able to see himself now, right now, 2014 Ali: unable to speak or do much of anything, I'm sure he would have done certain things differently.

[cambay411]

Im pretty sure hes said many times he wouldnt change a thing and wishes he could do it all over.

I wish I had the courage, skill, heart and toughness of Ali.

Ali was put on earth to do be the baddest man on the planet and thats what he did. He would do it again.

Considering what he did inside the ring and outside the ring, I would say its a safe bet he has no regrets.

I don't believe it. He wouldn't change a thing because he can't change a thing. He's accepted it. ..but had he been able to see himself now, right now, 2014 Ali: unable to speak or do much of anything, I'm sure he would have done certain things differently.

I would say he would take back the Holmes and the Berbick fight but thats about it.

[TeleTuff]

Every Great fighter has his detracters,..The Great Ray Leonard,..The Great Ray Robinson,..The Great Rocky Marciano,..and indeed The Great Ali,...Floyd could have fought and beat Pac already,..and he would still have his critics....Currently Floyd is getting paid by the Warehouse,..and on his way to retireing undefeated,...and already his name is in the conversation of the Greatest Fighter`s ever...So...if you are saying Floyd will alway`s have his detractors,..I would agree....However his legacy will be very strong,...Esp if finishes undefeated...

[cambay411]

Every Great fighter has his detracters,..The Great Ray Leonard,..The Great Ray Robinson,..The Great Rocky Marciano,..and indeed The Great Ali,...Floyd could have fought and beat Pac already,..and he would still have his critics....Currently Floyd is getting paid by the Warehouse,..and on his way to retireing undefeated,...and already his name is in the conversation of the Greatest Fighter`s ever...So...if you are saying Floyd will alway`s have his detractors,..I would agree....However his legacy will be very strong,...Esp if finishes undefeated...

Floyd will always have his detractors is exactly what I am saying. And probably worse than any other fighter ever. I've actually stated on here before that Floyd will go down has great but still be one of the most under rated fighters ever.

For example, people (non hardcore boxing fans or casual fans) dont look back at Ali's career and think "Well Liston threw the fight" or "He refused to fight Foreman a second time". The just look at him at think GOAT.

Has of right now, already, casual/non hard core fans look at Floyd and think "Hes ducking Pac" or "Look what hes done to the sport by not fighting Pac" and so much more. They dont look at his other fights and see he fought everyone else he could and see his ridiculous ability not to get hit. Floyds defensive style adds to the problem imo because most people dont see the true beauty of what he does.

I hope it gets better with time. But honestly has critical as everyone is on Floyd I dont see it happening.

[TeleTuff]

Wont make A difference,...like I said every great fighter has his detracters...We cant sit here and say what the general non hard core fight fans think of Mayweather`s legacy...That would be pure speculation...Many thought he would not fight Corales,...and we all know what happenned there,many thought just recently, that he would not fight the much Bigger,and Younger Alvarez,Larry Merchant included...and we all know what happenned there...Complete shut out....No fighter will satisfy every fan,especially the casual fan...If you are saying Mayweather will alway`s have some casual fans that will say "Well,he never fought Pac"..Then,sure...Pac will have the same,with A handful of loses to go along with,One by stone cold KO.....and A cloud of PED speculation to go along with it...If Mayweather retired today,..His name would still be mentioned with the Greatest of all times,...he would still be first ballot Hal of Fame,still be recognizd,and respected by his peers,and Filthy Rich to boot...Hall of Fame carears,are not decided on One fight,just not how i works...

[imp]

With marquez not bothering to fight pac again bob arum must be fuming.

What exactly does michael koncz do?

[Violent Demise]

With marquez not bothering to fight pac again bob arum must be fuming.

What exactly does michael koncz do?

Besides steal?

[TeleTuff]

Right on Ruthless,...We dont even know how to define..."Tarnished"..I mean if you are A Hall of Fame Multi World Titlist...With the respect of your peers,and A warehouse full of Money...What does tarnished mean...?...Everybody wants to see the fight,even at this point,...myself included,...but I personally will not hold it against either fighter`s legacy if it does not happen...Both have kicked FAR too much ass to be defined by One fight...Esp...Mayweather..

[cambay411]

Right on Ruthless,...We dont even know how to define..."Tarnished"..I mean if you are A Hall of Fame Multi World Titlist...With the respect of your peers,and A warehouse full of Money...What does tarnished mean...?...Everybody wants to see the fight,even at this point,...myself included,...but I personally will not hold it against either fighter`s legacy if it does not happen...Both have kicked FAR too much ass to be defined by One fight...Esp...Mayweather..

I cant disagree with this.

Fighters like Floyd and Pac have egos, egos clash and shit happens.

But just the way this whole thing went down with fans wanting this fight so bad for so long, its gonna leave its mark on the sport and their legacies.