Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Well guys are going to clinch in boxing, and outside fighters like Wlad have a tendancy to clinch moreso whenever the fight gets inside. Floyd Mayweather and Bernard Hopkins have been doing it forever but they don't get near the shit the Wlad does.

To be honest I don't think it's a one-way street. Povetkin did his fair share of holding as well, and in a lot of fights Wlad's opponents come to "accept" being tied up without trying to fight out of it.

But Wlad is very gifted, he is exceptionally skilled, strong, and he hits very hard, so I get very disappointed when he doesn't put more effort into obtaining a finish early, especially in his biggest fights.
there is clinching in boxing but there is basing your whole strategy on clinching

without the clinching wlad would not still be champion

hopkins does it yes, not anywhere near the level of wlad but he does

provetkin didnt do his fair share of holding, we must have been watching a different fight, he certainly did his fair share of being held

the opponents do accept it yes and its an absolute shame that they have to

wlad is tallented, but his stock is far and above what it would have vere have been if he was made to fight within the rules and the level of corruption wasnt there around his fights

in his second reign as champ which fight has not consisted of the same script as the fights you mentioned above?

wlad is very good at holding, and when he does he is very good at leaning and sapping the strength of his opponents, this wins him the fights, its no surprise to me that the 2 best fighters he has faced have fought on the back foot and done everything they can to avoid the clinch, because IMO is the only way to beat him