Originally Posted by IamInuit
That's the way it is with haters.... LOL.
You paint a convenient picture so matter what happens, the target of your hate gets no credit. It's so transparent, it's comical.
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That's the way it is with haters.... LOL.
You paint a convenient picture so matter what happens, the target of your hate gets no credit. It's so transparent, it's comical.
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Re: Cotto Vs. Martinez
Wrong.. you cant shy away from facts and the fact are, martinez has been slipping in his last few fights and dude has been inactive after serious knee operations..
That's the way it is with haters.... LOL.
You paint a convenient picture so matter what happens, the target of your hate gets no credit. It's so transparent, it's comical.
His knee went under the knife after the chavez fight but he suffered the same injury against murray that forced him another surgery.... doesnt that tell u anything?
When u can be objective about cotto, that'll be the day...
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Negative.. canelo is young, hungry, and healthy so he's actually a step up....
If Cotto wins, Canelo is a big step down.
Did I say "big"?
It's a HUGE step down.
Hmmm... let's see....
A: A future HOF'er, with his own legacy. A classy fighter who himself has faced the best out there. A natural bigger guy than Cotto, with Cotto taking a step up in weight. Epic showdown between two classy, future HOF'ers.
B: A coddled, pampered, overhyped ginger-haired boy.... who got taken to Boxing 101 by the same Floyd Mayweather who had a MUCH more competitive fight against Cotto. A guy who's a big draw, mostly because his female fans want him to be great. A WBC-made product just like Junior.
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Re: Cotto Vs. Martinez
I like Cotto, always have. But if he manages a win here I'll stand up...applaud..then put my boots in a blender and drink them. Even make a video ala Brockton style
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I think you know I've always been complimentary of Cottos skills, always saying he's an underrated boxing and such. But he was stout at 47, more stout at 54, he's going to be thick at 60. He's just not tall enough and long enough for that division. I'll root for him with everything I have but considering how his D lines up versus lefties, the size and speed advantages Sergio will carry if Cotto pulls it off looking to Sergios age and health seems reasonable. After all he is old and has been severely injured in each of his last 2 fights. It won't stop me from celebrating Cottos greatness but it still seems reasonable.
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Cotto is like 5 foot 6, going up to 160 pounds and fighting the best middle weight at this time... How are people already saying he's picking him at the right time cotto is 5FOOT6INCHES!!! People say mayweather is 2 small for 154 now how the hell can he be taller then cotto and to small for 154 but yet cotto goes to 154 and barely anyone says that he's to small for now he goes to 160 and no one is putting that into consideration. Tell me why isn't mayweather, manny, canelo, ggg, the other good middle weight (can't remember his name now), or any other top fighter not running at the opportunity to dethrone Martinez after his surgery's if he's done for? I get it people say cotto is catching him at the right time but he is the smallest person that could be fighting him other then manny and is getting shit on!? The truth is Martinez is the best middle weight right now and cotto is making his first fight at middle weight against the best middle weight out there. There is nothing cowardly about this.
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Re: Cotto Vs. Martinez
Was not pointing the finger at anyone specifically but rather forums in general concerning this fight. People act like this is some mismatch from hell on the one hand and then claim that if Cotto wins it just going to show how done Martinez is. I'm sorry but that's a crock of shit. Both of these guys enter with disadvantages. Both are battle worn. Both have weaknesses the other can exploit and much of that has to do with the fact that both are nowhere near their best. These guys should be celebrated for even fighting each other at this point and even if they are both cashing out....who cares? Both have doubled down paying their dues.
I think you know I've always been complimentary of Cottos skills, always saying he's an underrated boxing and such. But he was stout at 47, more stout at 54, he's going to be thick at 60. He's just not tall enough and long enough for that division. I'll root for him with everything I have but considering how his D lines up versus lefties, the size and speed advantages Sergio will carry if Cotto pulls it off looking to Sergios age and health seems reasonable. After all he is old and has been severely injured in each of his last 2 fights. It won't stop me from celebrating Cottos greatness but it still seems reasonable.
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A lot of people would disagree and suggest Golovkn is the best middleweight right now and few would give Cotto a chance vs him. Sergio hasn't impressed in a while and struggled with Murray but he is a title holder so it's a big fight.
Cotto deserves credit for taking this fight. Had Martinez looked his best in recent fights I don't think the fight would have been signed. Signs are it will happen, Cotto will make history picking up a MW title but it's a big gamble if Martinez isn't as washed up as he thinks he is because there's a chance his style could make Cotto look silly
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A lot of people would disagree and suggest Golovkn is the best middleweight right now and few would give Cotto a chance vs him. Sergio hasn't impressed in a while and struggled with Murray but he is a title holder so it's a big fight.
Cotto deserves credit for taking this fight. Had Martinez looked his best in recent fights I don't think the fight would have been signed. Signs are it will happen, Cotto will make history picking up a MW title but it's a big gamble if Martinez isn't as washed up as he thinks he is because there's a chance his style could make Cotto look silly
I was ok with your thoughts until then. I mean maybe Martinez would not entertain fighting the prime Cotto either. It could have been made when Cotto was at 147 and he was at 54. Leonard perhaps would not have fought the Hagler pre his 3 year hiatus. One could make the case that Leonard waited him out. Armstrong most likely would not have fought Garcia at that time for the fractured mid title had he not seen something. Armstrong was just over 140 for the weigh in btw.
Boxing is as much about timing outside the ring with matchmaking as it is about inside the ring. That has played out throughout history and clearly plays out today. This is going to be a great fight.
Ps-I was a little ticked off when I learned earlier last week that one of the major stumbling blocks was whose name appears first on the billboard.
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I admire Cotto for taking this fight, he is trying to make history but I like Martinez more. Both are at the end of their careers and deserve career high purses.
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I do think that Cotto believes Martinez is ready for the taking as most of us do. I also think if Sergio looked devastating in recent performances Cotto wouldn't be taking this fightA lot of people would disagree and suggest Golovkn is the best middleweight right now and few would give Cotto a chance vs him. Sergio hasn't impressed in a while and struggled with Murray but he is a title holder so it's a big fight.
Cotto deserves credit for taking this fight. Had Martinez looked his best in recent fights I don't think the fight would have been signed. Signs are it will happen, Cotto will make history picking up a MW title but it's a big gamble if Martinez isn't as washed up as he thinks he is because there's a chance his style could make Cotto look silly
I was ok with your thoughts until then. I mean maybe Martinez would not entertain fighting the prime Cotto either. It could have been made when Cotto was at 147 and he was at 54. Leonard perhaps would not have fought the Hagler pre his 3 year hiatus. One could make the case that Leonard waited him out. Armstrong most likely would not have fought Garcia at that time for the fractured mid title had he not seen something. Armstrong was just over 140 for the weigh in btw.
Boxing is as much about timing outside the ring with matchmaking as it is about inside the ring. That has played out throughout history and clearly plays out today. This is going to be a great fight.
Ps-I was a little ticked off when I learned earlier last week that one of the major stumbling blocks was whose name appears first on the billboard.
The name on the billboard thing is abit diva -ish but Martinez has signed, it's up to Cotto now. If it happens I think he has a good chance but if I had to lean one way I'd pick Martinez. I see his jab and crosses busting Cotto up late leaving him cut and worn down down
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I don't think the majority are that transparent and if they are just call them out. Should Cotto win e gets nothing but full respect. But equally is there any doubt at all that when-if Martinez beats Cotto into a bloody mess that he'll be slighted for beating a war torn jr middleweight who arguably hasn't had a high level win in years? People enter with biases and conveniently mold facts around them. But for some, its as clear as day what's at the core. Cotto is a soldier and no doubt about it but the way Martinez is being dismissed as a half conscious corpse with no legs is mind blowing.A lot of people would disagree and suggest Golovkn is the best middleweight right now and few would give Cotto a chance vs him. Sergio hasn't impressed in a while and struggled with Murray but he is a title holder so it's a big fight.
Cotto deserves credit for taking this fight. Had Martinez looked his best in recent fights I don't think the fight would have been signed. Signs are it will happen, Cotto will make history picking up a MW title but it's a big gamble if Martinez isn't as washed up as he thinks he is because there's a chance his style could make Cotto look silly
I was ok with your thoughts until then. I mean maybe Martinez would not entertain fighting the prime Cotto either. It could have been made when Cotto was at 147 and he was at 54. Leonard perhaps would not have fought the Hagler pre his 3 year hiatus. One could make the case that Leonard waited him out. Armstrong most likely would not have fought Garcia at that time for the fractured mid title had he not seen something. Armstrong was just over 140 for the weigh in btw.
Boxing is as much about timing outside the ring with matchmaking as it is about inside the ring. That has played out throughout history and clearly plays out today. This is going to be a great fight.
Ps-I was a little ticked off when I learned earlier last week that one of the major stumbling blocks was whose name appears first on the billboard.
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This thread cracks me up too, it's divided pretty evenly between idiots and geniuses.
I won't be able to tell which is which until after the fight, that's when I'll say, "I knew he was going to win."
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Actually, Martinez did call him out many times around 3 years ago at 154 but heard nothing but crickets from cotto's camp..A lot of people would disagree and suggest Golovkn is the best middleweight right now and few would give Cotto a chance vs him. Sergio hasn't impressed in a while and struggled with Murray but he is a title holder so it's a big fight.
Cotto deserves credit for taking this fight. Had Martinez looked his best in recent fights I don't think the fight would have been signed. Signs are it will happen, Cotto will make history picking up a MW title but it's a big gamble if Martinez isn't as washed up as he thinks he is because there's a chance his style could make Cotto look silly
I was ok with your thoughts until then. I mean maybe Martinez would not entertain fighting the prime Cotto either. It could have been made when Cotto was at 147 and he was at 54. Leonard perhaps would not have fought the Hagler pre his 3 year hiatus. One could make the case that Leonard waited him out. Armstrong most likely would not have fought Garcia at that time for the fractured mid title had he not seen something. Armstrong was just over 140 for the weigh in btw.
Boxing is as much about timing outside the ring with matchmaking as it is about inside the ring. That has played out throughout history and clearly plays out today. This is going to be a great fight.
Ps-I was a little ticked off when I learned earlier last week that one of the major stumbling blocks was whose name appears first on the billboard.
He was still traumatized from the margarito beating and was looking to rematch him at a catchweight of " 151 "..
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Actually, Martinez did call him out many times around 3 years ago at 154 but heard nothing but crickets from cotto's camp..A lot of people would disagree and suggest Golovkn is the best middleweight right now and few would give Cotto a chance vs him. Sergio hasn't impressed in a while and struggled with Murray but he is a title holder so it's a big fight.
Cotto deserves credit for taking this fight. Had Martinez looked his best in recent fights I don't think the fight would have been signed. Signs are it will happen, Cotto will make history picking up a MW title but it's a big gamble if Martinez isn't as washed up as he thinks he is because there's a chance his style could make Cotto look silly
I was ok with your thoughts until then. I mean maybe Martinez would not entertain fighting the prime Cotto either. It could have been made when Cotto was at 147 and he was at 54. Leonard perhaps would not have fought the Hagler pre his 3 year hiatus. One could make the case that Leonard waited him out. Armstrong most likely would not have fought Garcia at that time for the fractured mid title had he not seen something. Armstrong was just over 140 for the weigh in btw.
Boxing is as much about timing outside the ring with matchmaking as it is about inside the ring. That has played out throughout history and clearly plays out today. This is going to be a great fight.
Ps-I was a little ticked off when I learned earlier last week that one of the major stumbling blocks was whose name appears first on the billboard.
He was still traumatized from the margarito beating and was looking to rematch him at a catchweight of " 151 "..
Ha!
You stick out like a fly in a glass of milk with your Cotto hate... pretty much alone in this thread. You can't even disguise your hate... saying damned if he does... damned if he doesn't. Butt-hurt as all hell because he turned down Ginger Boy, when Ginger Boy has done NOTHING in his career but one good victory against a meek Austin Trout. If Cotto wins, it's not because he's good, but because he picked on an old, washed-up Martinez. If he loses... well... we all know you'll be first at the feeding frenzy line.
You know, you'd be more respected if you just came out and admitted your loathing of Cotto, instead of trying to sneak in comments about his loss to the cheating, disgraced Margarito and passing them off as some sort of boxing knowledge. I got your number, little boy.... a LONG TIME AGO.
My question to you is, and always HAS been......... where does Cotto stand in boxing today?
And where does Marga-cheato stand?
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