Sam Peter: Anybody?

[erics44]

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ok sweet now we have that out of the way

Ali clinched grapples, hopkins clinches grapples, ward clinches and grapples, hatton clinched and grappled

yep clinching and grappling is against the rules

pulling shirts in football is against the rules, contact in basketball is against the rules

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

the clinching klitchko does is extremely excessive, and its not just clinching its holding and leaning and doing it more than punching

if you gave someone who had never seen a boxing fight before and gave them an Ali tape and a wlad klit tape and gave them the fact that holding and leaning is against the rules i think they would come out with very different opinions of both fights

[El Kabong]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

[erics44]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

As it was up to the judges in the sven ottke fights to whether or not ottke won

[El Kabong]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

As it was up to the judges in the sven ottke fights to whether or not ottke won

Judges don't decide what is and is not a foul. Try again

[erics44]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

As it was up to the judges in the sven ottke fights to whether or not ottke won

Judges don't decide what is and is not a foul. Try again

very similar situation

i believe sven ottke's reign was less than legit as a result of the money it generated, this could be seen by the amount of gift decisions he got

i believe wlad klits reign is less than legitimate as a result of the amount of money it generates, this can be seen by the amount fouling he is allowed to get away with in his fights

[El Kabong]

very similar situation

And Cricket is SIMILAR to Baseball but it's not the same.

[erics44]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

As it was up to the judges in the sven ottke fights to whether or not ottke won

Judges don't decide what is and is not a foul. Try again

Who said that they did?

[erics44]

@Beanflicker , @El Kabong

if wlad only generated £50k per fight do you think he would be allowed to fight the way he does?

do you think he would still be champ?

[El Kabong]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

As it was up to the judges in the sven ottke fights to whether or not ottke won

Judges don't decide what is and is not a foul. Try again

Who said that they did?

Well you because you're trying to compare bad judging to refereeing.....probably because you're retarded

[erics44]

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

And it's up to the ref to define what is a foul and what is not


Thanks for bringing us full circle jackass

As it was up to the judges in the sven ottke fights to whether or not ottke won

Judges don't decide what is and is not a foul. Try again

Who said that they did?

Well you because you're trying to compare bad judging to refereeing.....probably because you're retarded

you know in a round about way I suppose I am, both methods of the corruption in the two cases that I have highlighted, well done

[Beanflicker]

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ok sweet now we have that out of the way

Ali clinched grapples, hopkins clinches grapples, ward clinches and grapples, hatton clinched and grappled

yep clinching and grappling is against the rules

pulling shirts in football is against the rules, contact in basketball is against the rules

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

the clinching klitchko does is extremely excessive, and its not just clinching its holding and leaning and doing it more than punching

if you gave someone who had never seen a boxing fight before and gave them an Ali tape and a wlad klit tape and gave them the fact that holding and leaning is against the rules i think they would come out with very different opinions of both fights

So let's cut to the chase: do you think that Ali (and the other guys you listed) would have had much lesser careers had they not been allowed to grapple? Enough pussyfooting around. You made certain claims about Wlad, do they run consistent down the board with guys like Ali?

[erics44]

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ok sweet now we have that out of the way

Ali clinched grapples, hopkins clinches grapples, ward clinches and grapples, hatton clinched and grappled

yep clinching and grappling is against the rules

pulling shirts in football is against the rules, contact in basketball is against the rules

A certain amount of shirt pulling/contact/clinching is acceptable

the clinching klitchko does is extremely excessive, and its not just clinching its holding and leaning and doing it more than punching

if you gave someone who had never seen a boxing fight before and gave them an Ali tape and a wlad klit tape and gave them the fact that holding and leaning is against the rules i think they would come out with very different opinions of both fights

So let's cut to the chase: do you think that Ali (and the other guys you listed) would have had much lesser careers had they not been allowed to grapple? Enough pussyfooting around. You made certain claims about Wlad, do they run consistent down the board with guys like Ali?

i disagree, i have been very consistent


read my post above, i have explained a clear distinction between the ali grapple and the klitchko clinch