Breaking down Margarito's " Plaster Myth "

[Mr140]

Iaminuit do you really think Cotto could take a beating from a guy having cement in his hands. Cotto is good at a lot of things but durability never has been his strong point. If he was wearing cement gloves then why no real effect on Williams or Clotty i mean he never hurt them that bad the whole fight. Shane had the power to fuck Margarito up and the chin to stand with him fight was just year and half later. As for Pac beating Margarito up he was on another level completely and was way better then Cotto ever was in his career. I say yea Cotto got the rematch win but both guys were kinda done. Margarito had to have his eye rebuild i don't think that should be overlooked also the reason the fight was stopped as well. I am not saying he didn't cheat ever but look at his career performances and i am not sure why it didn't effect the other fighters.

[TitoFan]

Cotto is good at a lot of things but durability never has been his strong point.

LMAO, 140. There goes the rest of your argument right there. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you never followed his career from the very beginning. You hear the negative comments, and repeat them verbatim. With the likes of Randall Bailey, Muhammad Abdullaev, and Ricardo Torres on his resume... I'd hardly question his durability. But none of these facts will ever convince you, so I won't spend that much time attempting it.

If he was wearing cement gloves then why no real effect on Williams or Clotty i mean he never hurt them that bad the whole fight.

No one claims he cheated his entire career. But his lack of moral character and who knows what outside pressures he had.... at some point he succumbed to temptation.

Shane had the power to fuck Margarito up and the chin to stand with him fight was just year and half later.

I don't recall Shane giving Margacheato much of a chance to GET to that chin. It was over before it even began. Come to think of it..... Shane's blowout of Margacheato serves to further boost Cotto's credentials, by making Miguel's victory over Shane all that much more impressive.










You're entitled to your opinions, as we all are. Just shedding some light with some facts which, if objective enough, you may want to reconsider.

[IamInuit]

Iaminuit do you really think Cotto could take a beating from a guy having cement in his hands.

Why not? Billy Collins took knuckles for 10 rds. Btw how do you rip a mans ear off in a boxing match?

Cotto is good at a lot of things but durability never has been his strong point.

Not durable? He's one of the most durable fighters today. Even when he was at 140 and was dropped he managed to rise to his feet and win. Sorry but if he's viewed by some as not durable well it probably comes down to the very thing this topic speaks to. How can a man be the same after being beaten down with cinder blocks?

If he was wearing cement gloves then why no real effect on Williams or Clotty i mean he never hurt them that bad the whole fight.

Why didn't Manny ask for a catch with Clottey but needed one with Cotto? Clottey was by far the biggest welter of the day scaling over 170 on fight night at times. He never came close to the exchanges he had with those two as he had with Cotto and perhaps they had someone watch the wraps. You used the phrase styles make fights well maybe its a simple as that. He had the cement in but could not cash in.


Shane had the power to fuck Margarito up and the chin to stand with him fight was just year and half later.

Hahaha look after Margarito was caught read headed his freakin dome took a holiday. Boxing is at the very least 75% mental so the discovery let all the air out of the bag. Margarito probably wanted to cancel the fight. Shane was in the right place at the right time and can you imagine his head space when he learned of the attempt?


As for Pac beating Margarito up he was on another level completely and was way better then Cotto ever was in his career.

Manny being better then Cotto was at anytime in his career is another thread and I dont agree with that statement.
The Margarito Manny beat was the same piece of dog shit that tried to cheat. Manny's beat down does not provide a rebuttal for him being a cheat. What it does provide is more proof that the cheat was dick w/o his loaded gloves.


I say yea Cotto got the rematch win but both guys were kinda done. Margarito had to have his eye rebuild i don't think that should be overlooked also the reason the fight was stopped as well. I am not saying he didn't cheat ever but look at his career performances and i am not sure why it didn't effect the other fighters

Fair enough and what I'm saying again is that if he (they) were about to cheat against an old Shane then its no leap to suggest that he did with an undefeated Cotto in his prime. Then add the PR/MEX rivalry to the mix. I'm sue they were selective along the way and weighed the odds.

I never said he cheated in every fight but that the possibility exists.

Since I answered inside your quote I needed to add something outside it.

[Mr140]

I am pretty sure they check the fucking hand wraps on a fight as big as Margarito vs Cotto considering that Cotto was the star and all. I just don't Think he would of lasted as long if Margarito had plaster on his hands. I also think he would of knocked out Clotty and Williams as well but that is just my thoughts. As for the thread is it true they were missing elements for it to even happen right or no. As for Cotto yea he was never better then Pacman i just cant see it in his career and competition. Beside Mosley who was 36 years old not shot but his best years behind him had a close fight that was a md and could of been a draw which i thought it was. Then you have the Clotty fight i know he had a bad cut but still very close fight could of either way. Margarito fight no point in going into that so i won't, then he gets his ass crushed by Pac i mean just a fucking ass kicking. Then after that goes on gives Mayweather a fight but still loses by a wide margin like most and then gets dominated by trout. Now he had ok comp at 140 but those guys will be forgotten there not elite and Zab and Carlos were good wins as well but that is about it. As good as Cotto was he never was the man of his division not at 140 not at 147 and not at 154 but you could make argument at 147 because it might of been a cheat but not proven but Margarito still won it. Anyway i just feel its kinda bit out there that he was caught now and all the big fights he has had and just now gets caught also be weird if this was the first time too.

[TitoFan]

Aimless ramblings aside, it's clear you don't like Cotto and will never give him credit for anything he's done in his career. Which again.... is your God-given right. But you were called on your claim that Cotto has never been durable, and you didn't respond. That alone gives away your lack of objectivity on the man. Be a hater... yes. But don't parrot things just because you heard them from a fellow hater.

[Mr140]

I think Cotto can be a hof have no problem with it maybe durable is not the right word Tito i don't think he had that great of a chin. Which to me if he was getting checked by fucking cinder blocks then i don't think he last much especially not eleven rounds. Also do you think Cotto was better then Pac at anytime in his career because i sure don't and that is what i said in the other post. I don't think i underrate Cotto really i mean he had a lot skill but his resume compared to a lot atg is not that impressive. I mean let me see what are his top wins Mosley, Zab, Clottey, Margarito, Paulie and Carlos. That's pretty good list but Mosley was on slide not shot or anything but man was 36 and that was close fucking fight. Clotty a man that could never win a big fight but could of easily got the nod in their fight. Zab at welterweight lost to fucking most good people if not all of them expect Spinks. Margarito got the shit beat out him and lost a eye before the rematch and if he is a cheater then fuck that win ain't really worth shit then right. The others are nothing really special but were good at the time. Also Cotto was never the top guy in his weight class either which kinda goes against you since love him or hate him Pac had that at least. In the end i give Cotto his due he's notched his way into the Hall of fame but is far from atg and i just don't think his chin good enough take cement to the face fair enough for you is that answer you wanted to hear or is that me hating him because i really don't.