Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

[mrbig1]

I gotta withhold judgement until someone actually makes Deontay break into a sweat. If and when Wilder crushes someone worthy, who walks into the ring with unsoiled pants, and is there for more than just a quick paycheck...... THEN I would entertain thoughts of pairing him with Wlad.

Of course, if Wlad were to see that, he might be inclined to join his brother in the political arena and enjoy early retirement from boxing.

You my friend are wise. He's getting married soon so why fight someone who can punch like that.

[Mr140]

By the time Wilder fights anyone worth a shit Wlad going to be 40 and retired i think Wald would out box the guy like he has been doing to most for the past 10 years. Whos knows we have not had a heavyweight champ since Holyfeild and he almost got it back at 48.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

[mrbig1]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

I would agree with that. The problem with that is it really a test? How good is Tyson Fury? They both look good but both has never been tested. Since Fury has a name in this sport that means a good payday for both and a shot at the title. I would doubt Fury would fight him. He's trying to come through the back door to get a shot at the title. He wants a rematch with a guy Haye beat the shit of. Wilder seems to be a guy nobody wants to fight. At least Wilder will go everywhere to fight anyone.

[Spicoli]

As painful as it is to say, Fury has been tested far more and done more than Wilder. He knows adversity through finding the flaws but thus far has wobbled through them, including a near tko on himself. I'm just wondering with all this Wlad talk...exactly who was the last guy landing a jab on Wilder and how many light years is he removed from the stick and pedigree of Wlad

[Max Power]

Come on guys, Fury is a much better boxer than Wilder.

Ok it's a pretty good contest, Good chances Wilder might get the drop on Fury.

But entertaining the idea against Wlad, come on now!!

I think Wilder would be a better opponent than Jean Marc Mormeck and Francesco Pianeta and DEFINITELY better than Alex Leapai. But he's not in the realm of Povetkin, Peter, Ibragimov, Chagaev, Haye, Thompson, Rahman. These guys would have stopped Wilder's advance through the ranks should he have encountered there kind at any stage.

[mrbig1]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

I would agree with that. The problem with that is it really a test? How good is Tyson Fury? They both look good but both has never been tested. Since Fury has a name in this sport that means a good payday for both and a shot at the title. I would doubt Fury would fight him. He's trying to come through the back door to get a shot at the title. He wants a rematch with a guy Haye beat the shit of. Wilder seems to be a guy nobody wants to fight. At least Wilder will go everywhere to fight anyone.

Fury or Wlad is not the one punch KO artist that Wilder is. I haven't seen that kind of power since big George.

[mrbig1]

As painful as it is to say, Fury has been tested far more and done more than Wilder. He knows adversity through finding the flaws but thus far has wobbled through them, including a near tko on himself. I'm just wondering with all this Wlad talk...exactly who was the last guy landing a jab on Wilder and how many light years is he removed from the stick and pedigree of Wlad

I was meaning to quote you but instead quoted myself, sorry.

[Hulk]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

I would agree with that. The problem with that is it really a test? How good is Tyson Fury? They both look good but both has never been tested. Since Fury has a name in this sport that means a good payday for both and a shot at the title. I would doubt Fury would fight him. He's trying to come through the back door to get a shot at the title. He wants a rematch with a guy Haye beat the shit of. Wilder seems to be a guy nobody wants to fight. At least Wilder will go everywhere to fight anyone.

Fury or Wlad is not the one punch KO artist that Wilder is. I haven't seen that kind of power since big George.

I hope you are right.

[Spicoli]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

I would agree with that. The problem with that is it really a test? How good is Tyson Fury? They both look good but both has never been tested. Since Fury has a name in this sport that means a good payday for both and a shot at the title. I would doubt Fury would fight him. He's trying to come through the back door to get a shot at the title. He wants a rematch with a guy Haye beat the shit of. Wilder seems to be a guy nobody wants to fight. At least Wilder will go everywhere to fight anyone.

Fury or Wlad is not the one punch KO artist that Wilder is. I haven't seen that kind of power since big George.

I just don't see a ko artist, its more paint by numbers. His power is pretty overstated vs the stunt men and ghosts he has faced. He can be very vulnerable and sloppy on delivery and you need more then a heavy right hand against Wlad these days. Ko records are constructed with guys like this, Shannon Briggs also ran up fifteen 1st round kos in 25-0 exactly like Wilder has. Beyond the numbers alot of Wilders inferior opponents actually got up, at least 4 were back of the head shots like tub of goo Damon McCreary who was last a Spr Middleweight defore Wilder fought him. I'm no Wlad fan, but I think he would melt Wilder down and put a brutal brutal schooling on him off that jab.

[mrbig1]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

I would agree with that. The problem with that is it really a test? How good is Tyson Fury? They both look good but both has never been tested. Since Fury has a name in this sport that means a good payday for both and a shot at the title. I would doubt Fury would fight him. He's trying to come through the back door to get a shot at the title. He wants a rematch with a guy Haye beat the shit of. Wilder seems to be a guy nobody wants to fight. At least Wilder will go everywhere to fight anyone.

Fury or Wlad is not the one punch KO artist that Wilder is. I haven't seen that kind of power since big George.

I just don't see a ko artist, its more paint by numbers. His power is pretty overstated vs the stunt men and ghosts he has faced. He can be very vulnerable and sloppy on delivery and you need more then a heavy right hand against Wlad these days. Ko records are constructed with guys like this, Shannon Briggs also ran up fifteen 1st round kos in 25-0 exactly like Wilder has. Beyond the numbers alot of Wilders inferior opponents actually got up, at least 4 were back of the head shots like tub of goo Damon McCreary who was last a Spr Middleweight defore Wilder fought him. I'm no Wlad fan, but I think he would melt Wilder down and put a brutal brutal schooling on him off that jab.

I would agree with that. Wilder has never really been tested. The is more to a fighter than just punching power. That's why I started the thread to see if anyone thought if he was the real deal. Maybe somebody knows more than I do. I haven't seen him fight a lot. Until he can show me something then I'll say he's the man. What has help Wlad is that he's been fighting people who are shorter than himself. He can keep people off with his jab and tie then up when getting inside. Wlad doesn't have that vs Wilder. Plus it's getting toward the end of his career. He's getting married soon so I don't see him having his heart in the sport very long. With all that said that may give Wilder more than just a puncher chance.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm just going to pretend that Wilder is definitely the real deal and is capable of sparking everybody before him in a few minutes. Try it. You'll remember what it's like to feel excited by the heavyweight division.

[Spicoli]

Wilder should face tyson fury for the right to face wlad.

I would agree with that. The problem with that is it really a test? How good is Tyson Fury? They both look good but both has never been tested. Since Fury has a name in this sport that means a good payday for both and a shot at the title. I would doubt Fury would fight him. He's trying to come through the back door to get a shot at the title. He wants a rematch with a guy Haye beat the shit of. Wilder seems to be a guy nobody wants to fight. At least Wilder will go everywhere to fight anyone.

Fury or Wlad is not the one punch KO artist that Wilder is. I haven't seen that kind of power since big George.

I just don't see a ko artist, its more paint by numbers. His power is pretty overstated vs the stunt men and ghosts he has faced. He can be very vulnerable and sloppy on delivery and you need more then a heavy right hand against Wlad these days. Ko records are constructed with guys like this, Shannon Briggs also ran up fifteen 1st round kos in 25-0 exactly like Wilder has. Beyond the numbers alot of Wilders inferior opponents actually got up, at least 4 were back of the head shots like tub of goo Damon McCreary who was last a Spr Middleweight defore Wilder fought him. I'm no Wlad fan, but I think he would melt Wilder down and put a brutal brutal schooling on him off that jab.

I would agree with that. Wilder has never really been tested. The is more to a fighter than just punching power. That's why I started the thread to see if anyone thought if he was the real deal. Maybe somebody knows more than I do. I haven't seen him fight a lot. Until he can show me something then I'll say he's the man. What has help Wlad is that he's been fighting people who are shorter than himself. He can keep people off with his jab and tie then up when getting inside. Wlad doesn't have that vs Wilder. Plus it's getting toward the end of his career. He's getting married soon so I don't see him having his heart in the sport very long. With all that said that may give Wilder more than just a puncher chance.

Yeh, Wilder does appear more focused with his jab..working a basic 1-2 down the middle as of late. But his holes might just be that lack of 'work'. I think of a master jabber/grappler like Wlad slipping that right and just the work and load he puts on a guy, Wilder has the legs of a middleweight and has really never had to work out of clinches, defend backing up or punch & get out with a live HUGE guy. The 500 lb gorilla in the room could be his stamina when its not all one way traffic.

[Mr140]

Do we even know if wilder has a chin thats has to be a big question no people mind i mean. Also he may have shit stamina we dont know and the way he has been brought along not even sure this fight going to happen. Wlad is like 37 or 38 how much longer does he got.

[TitoFan]

I gotta withhold judgement until someone actually makes Deontay break into a sweat. If and when Wilder crushes someone worthy, who walks into the ring with unsoiled pants, and is there for more than just a quick paycheck...... THEN I would entertain thoughts of pairing him with Wlad.

Of course, if Wlad were to see that, he might be inclined to join his brother in the political arena and enjoy early retirement from boxing.

You my friend are wise. He's getting married soon so why fight someone who can punch like that.

LOL...

If fighters had a song to express their feelings at a certain time and situation, I suspect this might well be Wlad's song: