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    Default Re: Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

    Size appears to be folks' primary concern, but Bowe's sole loss (which also happened in Bowe's prime) was to Holyfield who was basically the same size as Joe Louis. Same height, same weight. Except Joe is one of the hardest punchers in Boxing history, and Holyfield never had a Heavyweight punch. Holy was a good combination puncher, Louis was a better combination puncher...and with harder punches.
    Joe was fundamentally sound, one of the best schooled, textbook fighters there's ever been, whereas Holyfield fought off-balance a helluva lot.

    Bowe was damn good for a short time, and had wonderful physical attributes, and was a fantastic inside fighter considering he was so tall with those long arms. He was also psychologically unsound and lacked discipline.
    6'5", 235 lbs was about his best weight, 246 or more was too heavy for him.

    Joe Louis decimated big men like:
    6' 4", 254 lb Abe Simon
    6' 5½", 260 lb Primo Carnera
    6' 4 ½" 220 lb Jorge Brescia
    6' 6½", 250 lb Buddy Baer

    Smaller, faster, speedier guys gave Louis more trouble to catch up with them as they skedaddled around the ring away from him. I think a prime Joe Louis would knock out a prime Riddick Bowe, but it'd be a great fight, probably go 11 rds maybe.

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    Default Re: Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Size appears to be folks' primary concern, but Bowe's sole loss (which also happened in Bowe's prime) was to Holyfield who was basically the same size as Joe Louis. Same height, same weight. Except Joe is one of the hardest punchers in Boxing history, and Holyfield never had a Heavyweight punch. Holy was a good combination puncher, Louis was a better combination puncher...and with harder punches.
    Joe was fundamentally sound, one of the best schooled, textbook fighters there's ever been, whereas Holyfield fought off-balance a helluva lot.

    Bowe was damn good for a short time, and had wonderful physical attributes, and was a fantastic inside fighter considering he was so tall with those long arms. He was also psychologically unsound and lacked discipline.
    6'5", 235 lbs was about his best weight, 246 or more was too heavy for him.

    Joe Louis decimated big men like:
    6' 4", 254 lb Abe Simon
    6' 5½", 260 lb Primo Carnera
    6' 4 ½" 220 lb Jorge Brescia
    6' 6½", 250 lb Buddy Baer

    Smaller, faster, speedier guys gave Louis more trouble to catch up with them as they skedaddled around the ring away from him. I think a prime Joe Louis would knock out a prime Riddick Bowe, but it'd be a great fight, probably go 11 rds maybe.
    "Holyfield was basically the same size as Joe Louis" - No bradlee, Holyfield was a 215lb steroid pumped super athlete with no bodyfat. Louis was a skinny/fat 205lb actual CW sized fighter.

    "Joe is one of the hardest punchers in history and Holyfield never had a HW punch" - true Holy never had a HW punch. But Joe would not have been able to punch anywhere near as hard as Holyfield and probably would not rate in the top 100 HW boxers of all time in power!

    Holy was a better combination puncher than Louis and hit harder, and faster, and pretty much did everything to the letter better than Louis.

    Joe Louis had great technique against the criteria of his opposition, he was ahead of his time. Holyfield's was much better. As are many, many boxers since Louis. Obviously!

    Your description of Bowe was accurate.

    Joe Louis decimated the listed big men because they were absolute rubbish! Nothing more.

    Smaller men giving Louis more trouble was a sign that the big men had no skills back then, Bowe was obviously not the same mould as that.

    Thinking Louis would KO a guy the size and skill of Bowe the likes he never seen when he couldn't even KO all of his own piss weak opponents and considering Bowe was never knocked out entire career against better and much more powerful opponents is beyond laughable.

    You should stop thinking and just listen.

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    Default Re: Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

    Max for the last time, because you really are getting on my tits, size does not matter ask your wife.

    Champions are made because they dominated their time and showed their greatness by being consistent. Joe Louis is a heavyweight great Bowe will never be. He had the potential but blew it and that is his own fault. Who cares if he fought Joe now or Bowe fought then, there are too many variables to take into consideration. On any given day anything can happen because this is boxing and a left hook from Louis could certainly knock down Bowe.

    Get over yourself and your obsession with size.
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    Default Re: Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Max for the last time, because you really are getting on my tits, size does not matter ask your wife.

    Champions are made because they dominated their time and showed their greatness by being consistent. Joe Louis is a heavyweight great Bowe will never be. He had the potential but blew it and that is his own fault. Who cares if he Joe fought now or Bowe fought then, there are too many variables to take into consideration. On any given day anything can happen because this is boxing and a left hook from Louis could certainly knock down Bowe.

    Get over yourself and your obsession with size.
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    Default Re: Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

    Alright I'll drop it for now, enuf is enuf!! (y)
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