Prime Margarito in today's WW division

[jehoshaphat]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

at the same time this is from a guy who wants to maximise the offence

in fact i would go as far as to say he has a real vested interested in making sure that the offence is maximised

Maximize it for what? His fighter beat up and knocked out Margarito. And besides this is from the guy who was there not some dude writing like we are now. Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? This thread is starting to get too funny. You're brighter than that. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. Even his trainer admitted later but tried to say those wraps were only used for training purposes and he accidentally switched them.
Javier Capetillo Breaks Silence on Antonio Margarito's Illegal Wraps

[erics44]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

at the same time this is from a guy who wants to maximise the offence

in fact i would go as far as to say he has a real vested interested in making sure that the offence is maximised

Maximize it for what? His fighter beat up and knocked out Margarito. And besides this is from the guy who was there not some dude writing like we are now. Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? This thread is starting to get too funny. You're brighter than that. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. Even his trainer admitted later but tried to say those wraps were only used for training purposes and he accidentally switched them.
Javier Capetillo Breaks Silence on Antonio Margarito's Illegal Wraps

the thread is only getting funny because there are people on here disagreeing with you and making very good grounding for it

to a person with above average intelligence id have thought that would be pretty clear

[jehoshaphat]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

at the same time this is from a guy who wants to maximise the offence

in fact i would go as far as to say he has a real vested interested in making sure that the offence is maximised

Maximize it for what? His fighter beat up and knocked out Margarito. And besides this is from the guy who was there not some dude writing like we are now. Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? This thread is starting to get too funny. You're brighter than that. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. Even his trainer admitted later but tried to say those wraps were only used for training purposes and he accidentally switched them.
Javier Capetillo Breaks Silence on Antonio Margarito's Illegal Wraps

the thread is only getting funny because there are people on here disagreeing with you and making very good grounding for it

to a person with above average intelligence id have thought that would be pretty clear

And by "people" you mean "you"? Its just you and I going back and forth bro. You didn't even respond to the point of my last post. You're just trying to insult instead of debate using facts.

[erics44]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

at the same time this is from a guy who wants to maximise the offence

in fact i would go as far as to say he has a real vested interested in making sure that the offence is maximised

Maximize it for what? His fighter beat up and knocked out Margarito. And besides this is from the guy who was there not some dude writing like we are now. Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? This thread is starting to get too funny. You're brighter than that. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. Even his trainer admitted later but tried to say those wraps were only used for training purposes and he accidentally switched them.
Javier Capetillo Breaks Silence on Antonio Margarito's Illegal Wraps

the thread is only getting funny because there are people on here disagreeing with you and making very good grounding for it

to a person with above average intelligence id have thought that would be pretty clear

And by "people" you mean "you"? Its just you and I going back and forth bro. You didn't even respond to the point of my last post. You're just trying to insult instead of debate using facts.

You're just trying to insult instead of debate using facts
ha, just to point out its you throwing the insults, and me just repeating what you said

"someone of average intelligence"
"you must be brighter than that"

And by "people" you mean "you"? i have seen 2 people reply to your posts


You didn't even respond to the point of my last post

ok, you are right i didnt

Maximize it for what? He was mosleys trainer, if in anyway it turns out that the loaded gloves were anything less than severe then he is gonna look a right cunt, probably the biggest cunt in the whole thing, richardson had to do and say everything to make sure margaritos gloves were loaded as badly as he could

Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? is this a question you want me to reply to?

You just don't want to admit you're wrong. i assume this is a question and to answer it - im right

Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. at what point in this discussion have i said that it was a pinch?

[jehoshaphat]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

at the same time this is from a guy who wants to maximise the offence

in fact i would go as far as to say he has a real vested interested in making sure that the offence is maximised

Maximize it for what? His fighter beat up and knocked out Margarito. And besides this is from the guy who was there not some dude writing like we are now. Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? This thread is starting to get too funny. You're brighter than that. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. Even his trainer admitted later but tried to say those wraps were only used for training purposes and he accidentally switched them.
Javier Capetillo Breaks Silence on Antonio Margarito's Illegal Wraps

the thread is only getting funny because there are people on here disagreeing with you and making very good grounding for it

to a person with above average intelligence id have thought that would be pretty clear

And by "people" you mean "you"? Its just you and I going back and forth bro. You didn't even respond to the point of my last post. You're just trying to insult instead of debate using facts.

You're just trying to insult instead of debate using facts
ha, just to point out its you throwing the insults, and me just repeating what you said

"someone of average intelligence"
"you must be brighter than that"

And by "people" you mean "you"? i have seen 2 people reply to your posts


You didn't even respond to the point of my last post

ok, you are right i didnt

Maximize it for what? He was mosleys trainer, if in anyway it turns out that the loaded gloves were anything less than severe then he is gonna look a right cunt, probably the biggest cunt in the whole thing, richardson had to do and say everything to make sure margaritos gloves were loaded as badly as he could

Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? is this a question you want me to reply to?

You just don't want to admit you're wrong. i assume this is a question and to answer it - im right

Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. at what point in this discussion have i said that it was a pinch?

What 2 people replied to my post? You stated people are disagreeing with me and giving good grounding. By replying to my post to Finito about the pinch insinuated that you agreed with him because you stated that Richardson was trying to maximize the offense. But lets just get to the bottom of this. What exactly is it that you're disagreeing with me about then?

[erics44]

What 2 people replied to my post? You stated people are disagreeing with me and giving good grounding. By replying to my post to Finito about the pinch insinuated that you agreed with him because you stated that Richardson was trying to maximize the offense. But lets just get to the bottom of this. What exactly is it that you're disagreeing with me about then?

heres some points which you have made that i dissagree with

1. people with average intelligence would know that loaded gloves are worse than peds
2. it was me throwing the insults and not you
3. Richardson was not trying to maximise the offence
4. There was not more than one person on this thread disagreeing with you
5. i just dont want to admit im wrong
6. This thread is starting to get funny

[jehoshaphat]

What 2 people replied to my post? You stated people are disagreeing with me and giving good grounding. By replying to my post to Finito about the pinch insinuated that you agreed with him because you stated that Richardson was trying to maximize the offense. But lets just get to the bottom of this. What exactly is it that you're disagreeing with me about then?

heres some points which you have made that i dissagree with

1. people with average intelligence would know that loaded gloves are worse than peds
2. it was me throwing the insults and not you
3. Richardson was not trying to maximise the offence
4. There was not more than one person on this thread disagreeing with you
5. i just dont want to admit im wrong
6. This thread is starting to get funny

1. So what kind of intelligence do you need?
2. I never said I didn't throw any insults as well. I stated in one post that you didn't reply to my points and only went the insult route.
3. You said Richardson was trying to maximize the offense. I then asked you why would he need to when his fighter brutally won.
4. You stated 2 people replied to my post disagreeing and giving good grounding like you stated.
5. I said that because I don't see how anyone can defend such an offense that Margarito committed and not really believe its as horrible as it is. And to this I ask you a question...would you defend Mayweather in the same light if he got caught loading his gloves?
6. Do you really think this topic is not overdone? Were sitting here in 2014 still arguing/insulting each other over this tired topic. I for one regret that I even bit to Finito's thread. I'll admit...he got me.

[Andre]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

at the same time this is from a guy who wants to maximise the offence

in fact i would go as far as to say he has a real vested interested in making sure that the offence is maximised

Maximize it for what? His fighter beat up and knocked out Margarito. And besides this is from the guy who was there not some dude writing like we are now. Come on man like a pinch of plaster is going to be effective...and coincidentally a pinch in each wrap? This thread is starting to get too funny. You're brighter than that. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Show me where anyone involved said it was a pinch. Even his trainer admitted later but tried to say those wraps were only used for training purposes and he accidentally switched them.
Javier Capetillo Breaks Silence on Antonio Margarito's Illegal Wraps

To be fair comparing plaster to concrete is the opposite extreme to saying just a pinch.

Plaster is as weak as piss, three good punches and it goes to powder but add sweat to it as well and it ends up weighty white soup. Layers of it dusted into wraps layer upon layer would add some real percussion to a punch.
You dont do that for training purposes they were cheating.Marg may or may not of known,
If he was innocent he would ask for a lie detector test,I would if i was framed and blamed.
So I suspect he knew.

[erics44]

What 2 people replied to my post? You stated people are disagreeing with me and giving good grounding. By replying to my post to Finito about the pinch insinuated that you agreed with him because you stated that Richardson was trying to maximize the offense. But lets just get to the bottom of this. What exactly is it that you're disagreeing with me about then?

heres some points which you have made that i dissagree with

1. people with average intelligence would know that loaded gloves are worse than peds
2. it was me throwing the insults and not you
3. Richardson was not trying to maximise the offence
4. There was not more than one person on this thread disagreeing with you
5. i just dont want to admit im wrong
6. This thread is starting to get funny

1. So what kind of intelligence do you need?
2. I never said I didn't throw any insults as well. I stated in one post that you didn't reply to my points and only went the insult route.
3. You said Richardson was trying to maximize the offense. I then asked you why would he need to when his fighter brutally won.
4. You stated 2 people replied to my post disagreeing and giving good grounding like you stated.
5. I said that because I don't see how anyone can defend such an offense that Margarito committed and not really believe its as horrible as it is. And to this I ask you a question...would you defend Mayweather in the same light if he got caught loading his gloves?
6. Do you really think this topic is not overdone? Were sitting here in 2014 still arguing/insulting each other over this tired topic. I for one regret that I even bit to Finito's thread. I'll admit...he got me.

1. I dont know, you brought up intelligence
2. i dont class mine as insults as i was just repeating what you said
3. read my earlier post to as why richardson had to maximise the offence
4. pardon?
5. I wasnt defending anything
6. yep, this topic is overdone as ive said earlier, and as i also said earlier that it amazes me that boxing fans slate margarito for this crime yet still love boxers that have been caught using peds