Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

[Ron Swanson]

Wlad is yet to be THE heavyweight champ.

He may never be THE heavyweight champ.

He has yet to unify the belts and be the undisputed champion, yet alone make any defences of the unified championships.

What a load of shit!

You understand you can't be THE champion anymore right? As soon as he picks up the WBC he will either have to drop all the other belts or drop the WBC belt. I don't see how beating some chump carrying the WBC belt somehow makes him more of a champion than beating top contender after top contender.

[Max Power]

He is the HW champ, always has been for years.

Now what kind of fucking moron would argue otherwise!

[ross]

Wlad is yet to be THE heavyweight champ.

He may never be THE heavyweight champ.

He has yet to unify the belts and be the undisputed champion, yet alone make any defences of the unified championships.

What a load of shit!

You understand you can't be THE champion anymore right? As soon as he picks up the WBC he will either have to drop all the other belts or drop the WBC belt. I don't see how beating some chump carrying the WBC belt somehow makes him more of a champion than beating top contender after top contender.

Of course he can.

Im pretty sure even the most casual fan can tell you who the undisputed champs have been since the emergence of the other belts.

Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis. Thats it.

Its a marker of greatness. The next would be how long they held them together and defended. Tyson, easily being top with 6 defences, losing in the 7th.

He is the HW champ, always has been for years.

Now what kind of fucking moron would argue otherwise!

No he hasnt. Hes had 1 belt for years and hasnt had to face all comers. Hes only been a belt holder, only having to face one third of the challengers out there to hold on to that belt. Not all comers as those whove held the three belts simultaneously have had to do. He left alot to his brother that he couldnt cope with.

Hes never been undisputed and has never defended the undisputed title.

I think most will agree they dont count the WBO.

Its much more difficult holding together the WBC, WBA and IBF as you HAVE to fight everyone. Why do you think Wlad has held that one title so long? Its still a good acheivment but nothing like becoming undisputed.

[Max Power]

You are purposely being argumentative. There is no way you can dismiss the achievements of this guy as anything less than the most dominant career in history!

The WBO is now recognised as a major belt, when it was established it took some time to be regarded as such in the HW division.

Wlad has unified the WBO, IBF, WBA major belts as well as the IBO and recognised as "The Ring" HW champion for a very long time... That is the REAL HW champion.

Where the hell do you get this notion he only held 1 belt? He's been DEPRIVED of only 1 belt more like it. And everybody knows the only reason he could never get his hands on the WBC was because his brother had it.

Now who is better out of Vitali and Wlad is a matter of dispute, but I think it's fair to say that later in the game it has been Wladimir who definitely had the upper hand.

I seen Wlad win back one title after another right after his last defeat and then defend them successfully ever since.

And you want to compare Mike Tyson's (bless him) 6 fight defenses to this!

Get the hell out of here mate! Pure nutbaggery at it's finest @ross !!!

[ross]

You are purposely being argumentative. There is no way you can dismiss the achievements of this guy as anything less than the most dominant career in history!

The WBO is now recognised as a major belt, when it was established it took some time to be regarded as such in the HW division.

Wlad has unified the WBO, IBF, WBA major belts as well as the IBO and recognised as "The Ring" HW champion for a very long time... That is the REAL HW champion.

Where the hell do you get this notion he only held 1 belt? He's been DEPRIVED of only 1 belt more like it. And everybody knows the only reason he could never get his hands on the WBC was because his brother had it.

Now who is better out of Vitali and Wlad is a matter of dispute, but I think it's fair to say that later in the game it has been Wladimir who definitely had the upper hand.

I seen Wlad win back one title after another right after his last defeat and then defend them successfully ever since.

And you want to compare Mike Tyson's (bless him) 6 fight defenses to this!

Get the hell out of here mate! Pure nutbaggery at it's finest @ross !!!

Your full of shit!

The Klitschkos had the money in the division, if they wanted to get those titles they could have.

Who was better out of Vitali and Wlad? Vitali was, so Wlad is only dominant since Vitalis retirement and he still needs to unify to be the only heavyweight champ.

Do you think its possible for him to unify or worried he might lose in the process of trying?

[Max Power]

Hey Ross, just in case you hadn't heard, the pair of them together have had ALL the titles locked up for ever.

Vitali the WBC,
Wladimir all the others

They both DID have all the titles. The only thing EVER preventing unification has always been the fact the brothers wont fight each other.

I have seen a lot of weird angles used to beat on the Ukranians but this is a new one!! Instead of attacking the quality of them, attack the achievements themselves.

Nice one!! =P

[ross]

Hey Ross, just in case you hadn't heard, the pair of them together have had ALL the titles locked up for ever.

Vitali the WBC,
Wladimir all the others

They both DID have all the titles. The only thing EVER preventing unification has always been the fact the brothers wont fight each other.

I have seen a lot of weird angles used to beat on the Ukranians but this is a new one!! Instead of attacking the quality of them, attack the achievements themselves.

Nice one!! =P

Oh, so your not arguing on behalf of Wlad but "the brothers" standing in heavyweight history?

Wlads achievements on their own are good but he needs to beat the winner of the upcoming WBC fight to seal it.

It is possible to unify the belts, other fighters in other divisions have done it. By not unifying you are avoiding having to fight certain fighters so you can take on people like Mormeck and extend your career.

Good business move but not a great career.

[erics44]

You are purposely being argumentative. There is no way you can dismiss the achievements of this guy as anything less than the most dominant career in history!

The WBO is now recognised as a major belt, when it was established it took some time to be regarded as such in the HW division.

Wlad has unified the WBO, IBF, WBA major belts as well as the IBO and recognised as "The Ring" HW champion for a very long time... That is the REAL HW champion.

Where the hell do you get this notion he only held 1 belt? He's been DEPRIVED of only 1 belt more like it. And everybody knows the only reason he could never get his hands on the WBC was because his brother had it.

Now who is better out of Vitali and Wlad is a matter of dispute, but I think it's fair to say that later in the game it has been Wladimir who definitely had the upper hand.

I seen Wlad win back one title after another right after his last defeat and then defend them successfully ever since.

And you want to compare Mike Tyson's (bless him) 6 fight defenses to this!

Get the hell out of here mate! Pure nutbaggery at it's finest @ross !!!

i can, i dont think his career can really be taken seriously due to the hurrendous amount he is allowed to cheat in his fights

he obviously has a weakness and he is allowed to cheat in the most effective way possible to protect it

he wouldnt be allowed to get away with it if he didnt generate the amount of money he does

[Ron Swanson]

Jesus, listen ross. The WBC nolonger allows you to carry other titles. Defending all the belts is quite literally impossible! It's not a matter of want to or difficulty, it's impossible. So stop saying it.

[Master]

Jesus, listen ross. The WBC nolonger allows you to carry other titles. Defending all the belts is quite literally impossible! It's not a matter of want to or difficulty, it's impossible. So stop saying it.

Did not realise that, so we will not get it unified like Tyson and Lennox did?

[VG_Addict]

This clown said that past boxers were punching bags? He's saying that Gene Tunney, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Joe Louis were punching bags?

YDKSAB.

But please, tell us how the likes of Pianeta, Wach, and Povetkin would be undefeated in past eras. Povetkin went life and death with Huck, a limited CW.

[ross]

Jesus, listen ross. The WBC nolonger allows you to carry other titles. Defending all the belts is quite literally impossible! It's not a matter of want to or difficulty, it's impossible. So stop saying it.

Did not realise that, so we will not get it unified like Tyson and Lennox did?

To be honest I didnt either!

I still dont change my view that Vitali being around has hurt Wlads legacy because im not the only one who thinks in a bout between the two that Vitali would win.

The only regning champ Lewis beat was Holyfield.

Mike Tyson is the only man to genuinely unify the three main titles by beating three reigning, defending champions.

[ross]

Jesus, listen ross. The WBC nolonger allows you to carry other titles. Defending all the belts is quite literally impossible! It's not a matter of want to or difficulty, it's impossible. So stop saying it.

Floyd Mayweather?