Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

[Max Power]

I did not say he was a poor fighter and I did not say he was not fit. He was very fit and a great fighter on the contrary (duh).

You do not become the HW champion of the world by being a poor fighter and you'd definitely want to be pretty bloody fit as well in any era.

I said he was not as good a fighter as Mormeck and nowhere near as fit. That I believe is certain.

[ross]

I did not say he was a poor fighter and I did not say he was not fit. He was very fit and a great fighter on the contrary (duh).

You do not become the HW champion of the world by being a poor fighter and you'd definitely want to be pretty bloody fit as well in any era.

I said he was not as good a fighter as Mormeck and nowhere near as fit. That I believe is certain.

Mormecks fitness was fuck all against ONeil Bell and Haye. Haye himself has shit stamina!

Im starting to see what master is on about. Thought he was being harsh but you are spouting shit.

[Max Power]

Maybe Bell and Haye were high quality opponents?

Take a click on all Mormecks opponents, especially the loss ones and just see the quality of their records at a glance. And then do the same for Louis and you will see exactly what I'm talking about.

They were all good boxers but one of them fought mostly bums... And 3 of them did not!

[ross]

Maybe Bell and Haye were high quality opponents?

Take a click on all Mormecks opponents, especially the loss ones and just see the quality of their records at a glance. And then do the same for Louis and you will see exactly what I'm talking about.

They were all good boxers but one of them fought mostly bums... And 3 of them did not!

I don't rate Haye or Bell

Haye lost to Thompson and wanted no rematch. The only other name he has a win over at cruiser is Enzo

[Max Power]

He completely cleaned out the cruiser division and then started whacking the giant heavies around. That's a little bit respectful!

Most all former cruisers that move up to heavy are always featherfists, even Holyfield, but Haye seemed to carry his power with him as well as his speed. Not that durable but so good he didn't really get hit much anyway!

[Master]

Did you say "that is a little bit disrespectful"? Read your posts about Joe Louis, Joe Frazier, Ali and say that again.

[Max Power]

LOL I catch your drift but I did in fact mean that what Haye did was a bit "respectful". I can see how ironic it would have been were I to have taken offense though lol

[ross]

He completely cleaned out the cruiser division and then started whacking the giant heavies around. That's a little bit respectful!

Most all former cruisers that move up to heavy are always featherfists, even Holyfield, but Haye seemed to carry his power with him as well as his speed. Not that durable but so good he didn't really get hit much anyway!

Did he fuck!

There was Steve Cunnigham who was also a world champion at the time. He held the IBF title.

Haye wanted no part of him after he had knocked out Marco Huck.

Always bugs me when Haye and idiots call Haye the undisputed champ because there was another very good fighter around he completely side stepped.

[Max Power]

He completely cleaned out the cruiser division and then started whacking the giant heavies around. That's a little bit respectful!

Most all former cruisers that move up to heavy are always featherfists, even Holyfield, but Haye seemed to carry his power with him as well as his speed. Not that durable but so good he didn't really get hit much anyway!

Did he fuck!

There was Steve Cunnigham who was also a world champion at the time. He held the IBF title.

Haye wanted no part of him after he had knocked out Marco Huck.

Always bugs me when Haye and idiots call Haye the undisputed champ because there was another very good fighter around he completely side stepped.

Again, you do realise in the current landscape of boxing how difficult it is to become undisputed holding all 4 major belts at the time and keeping them? With one belt forcing you to fight someone and then another threatening to strip another? Things were a lot simpler back in the day. I don't think Haye sweated Cunningham! Fuck, look at the performance of Haye by comparison! No matter what he did you will always find some minor little issue to pick on, same for any other current and recent fighter but you can somehow choose to overlook the vast and more serious problems that would be encountered by your past time heroes.