Subpar Foe Doesn't Mean Klitschko's Not An All-Timer

[Mr140]

There has only really been a few fights were i think Wald has over did it compared to past greats when i comes to holding. I think you have grudge because of the Haye fight were Haye ran then hugged Wald trying to blow him. Wald may not be the best to ever walk the planet but you have some grudge over him its got to be that i guess. Reason being before the Haye fight you never mention Wald in such a bad light but after he beat Haye and in that fight Wlad was not the one going for holds or running so it was pretty much Haye. I don't think you should hate Wald for that thought dude come on now.

[erics44]

There has only really been a few fights were i think Wald has over did it compared to past greats when i comes to holding. I think you have grudge because of the Haye fight were Haye ran then hugged Wald trying to blow him. Wald may not be the best to ever walk the planet but you have some grudge over him its got to be that i guess. Reason being before the Haye fight you never mention Wald in such a bad light but after he beat Haye and in that fight Wlad was not the one going for holds or running so it was pretty much Haye. I don't think you should hate Wald for that thought dude come on now.

you think so do you

you must have studdied my posts well

one point is tho, wlad has over held in more than just a few fights, id say its more like just a few fights where he hasnt

is it so inconceivable that all the people who wlad makes so rich wouldnt want wlad to still be champ in 10 years?

[Mr140]

Well it was mostly in the Haye build up you kept building up Haye and pissing lyle off but you never called Wald a cheat till after he beat Haye and it was not Wald doing most of fouling could be wrong maybe there another reason you do. I am just saying before the fight you never called Wald a cheat before.

[erics44]

Well it was mostly in the Haye build up you kept building up Haye and pissing lyle off but you never called Wald a cheat till after he beat Haye and it was not Wald doing most of fouling could be wrong maybe there another reason you do. I am just saying before the fight you never called Wald a cheat before.

you are right i definately wasnt as vocal about it in the past

i am bored of it now tho, id like the HW division back, it was always clear what was going on

before, during and after the haye fight and the several fights before and since all i hear is how much of gentlemen the klits are, how good they are for boxing

are they fuckers like, wlad cheats all the way through the majority of his fights and putting his opponents at more risk in the process, ok wlad is the champ and has a very good set up and is very good at what he does

see it for what it is tho

[Mr140]

Eric not getting better when they leave dude just going to fighters worse then them pretty much. Might get more exciting i guess but in truth the level will go down. I may just disagree with you hear but out of all Walds fights i only think maybe 15 percent of them were he really over did but to each his own.

[erics44]

Eric not getting better when they leave dude just going to fighters worse then them pretty much. Might get more exciting i guess but in truth the level will go down. I may just disagree with you hear but out of all Walds fights i only think maybe 15 percent of them were he really over did but to each his own.

yep, if you dont think that what wlad is doing is extreme blatent cheating then each to their own as you say

ill have to disagree with on your opinion that it wont get better once hes gone too

i think its will get a lot better, there might be a short low period, but once that is done we could have some exciting title fights again, only sticking point is if we get another wlad opperation taking over

[Mr140]

Not many big men are like the Brothers for there size they are way fast and can really box when they feel like it only Bowie and Lewis were like them. I am pretty sure there won't be a reigning champ but the talent pool right now is not a good one really and the eastern Europeans are kinda kings of hws now.