Chavez Jr Vs Chuck Liddell in a streetfight

[FinitoElDinamita]

He ain't gonna fist fight with Chavez. Liddell had a good MMA straight right but that is different.

Liddell don't have much ground game, does he?

[greynotsoold]

He ain't gonna fist fight with Chavez. Liddell had a good MMA straight right but that is different.

Liddell don't have much ground game, does he?

More than Chavez probably, and he'd have to take it to the ground.

[J_Undisputed]

Chuck knew a few submissions and could engage in some ground and pound. He just stopped concerning himself with any of it when it became easier to blast a guy out scream and then head to the post party early.

Even old Chuck pummels junior in a variety of ways. I'd chop at the legs first with kicks. Once the legs start trembling, his base is gone and he can't get his weight behind his punches. He's also a sitting duck for chucks punches if it got that far. Chuck had a uncanny knack for moving his head just enough and throwing short counters. He also got more power from corkscrewing his punches than anyone I've ever seen. Street fight just favors chucks style and his ability to end fights in quick stand up exchanges. The question is could chuck outrun the cartel guys afterwards

[jehoshaphat]

Liddell easily wins this. Any top MMA guy is better equipped for a street fight. And Liddell has a good wrestling background he just abandons it because he fell in love with his power. A lot of wrestlers that join MMA do that because they are really fighters at heart. Rampage, Hendricks, Jon Jones, Woodley, Hendo, etc. But lets be realistic guys and give MMA the factual credit it deserves. Liddell, who cut down to 205, in a street fight with Chavez who is probably out of shape at 205. Liddell knows Chavez is a world class boxer. There is no way he abandons his wrestling in this one. See Coutre/Toney.

[Violent Demise]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

[oakleyno1]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

Chuck all the way - check out UFC 1-7 etc when there really were no rules - think there was about one boxer - and he got wiped out fast -

even the best fighters (boxers) are at an immediate disadvantage in a street fight vs a good ufc fighter - I prefer boxing anyday and love watching it - but ask a beginner to box or train in mma to have a street fight in a year and they should pick mma

[bradlee180]

check out UFC 1-7 etc when there really were no rules - think there was about one boxer - and he got wiped out fast -

Really, that proved nothing... except that the masses are gullible.

The Gracie family co-owned UFC and selected all opponents.

UFC was simply a tournament the Gracies created to promote their Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to drive up enrollments at their martial arts schools. It was like a PPV infomercial.
They had no idea it would ever morph into what it's become, nor that a sport would develop out of it.

Do you honesty think they'd pick opponents that they thought their man Royce couldn't beat? On their own show?!

God bless 'em, at least the fights were real, and Royce still deserves respect for fighting 3 fights in 1 night with barely any rules, no weight classes, and no time limits. But this boxer they selected proved nothing.


From 1984 when we got a 10 foot satellite dish, throughout the 80s and 1990s, I was a Boxing fanatic, and would even watch the 4 rd Just4Starters, but despite all this history, I had never seen nor even heard of Art Jimmerson until UFC 1 in Nov, 1993.

[beenKOed]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

Fun to disagree with you, as soon as Chuck saw it was going bad standing up, he'd have Jr down between a bench and a building or half way under a car while he stomped on his head or balls.

Stop trolling all the time, please.

[Violent Demise]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

Fun to disagree with you, as soon as Chuck saw it was going bad standing up, he'd have Jr down between a bench and a building or half way under a car while he stomped on his head or balls.

Stop trolling all the time, please.

There is no soon as. Chuck will never have a chance to consider adjusting. First solid punch Chavez lands he's knocking him out. Once your chin gets cracked it stays cracked. It never comes back. Liddell chin is beyond cracked. He wobbles every time his girl gives him a peck on the cheek. Look at the way his career ended. Those weren't referee stoppage KO's he suffered. Those were knocked the fuck out, give this muthafukka 10 minutes and lets pray to God he wakes up losses. And those weren't skilled punchers who were laying him out