Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

[Max Power]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

[ross]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

He makes a quality, fun opponent but thats it.

I think Stiverne is only slightly better.

[Max Power]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

He makes a quality, fun opponent but thats it.

I think Stiverne is only slightly better.

Well I cannot wait for that fight!

I hope Arreola beats him good, I know he has the potential to get that dude out of there!!

There are a lot of good fights coming up in the HW division.

Fury/Chisora
Arreola/Stiverne
Wilder/(Arreola/Stiverne) winner
Wladimir and the winners of those fights will also be good most likely.

In fact about the only definitely boring fight this year will be the Pulev/Wladimir fight, technical and boring so fightfan should be in for a treat! lol

[p4pking]

Disagree Max, in fact I think those are both unnecessary rematches, all four guys could be in much more interesting bouts. As much as Arreola is fun to watch, he wasn't against Stiverne really was he? Maybe he was taken out of it mentally after being dropped and cut, but suppose the fight plays out a similar way, both guys have just wasted so much time. Fury-Chisora was a pretty clear cut workmanlike win, I don't see why that rematch would exceed anyones expectations either. Chisora will be in better shape this time, Fury is actually a little better in general this time, I expect a more polished win by a similar margin. Chisora isn't that good, he can't punch shit, and should probably be thrown in the loony bin to fight his nurses at medication time. All he brings to a world class fight is a pile of thug BS for the pre-fight circus, imo.

I'd be very interested in seeing Fury or Wilder fight the winner of Stiverne-Arreola, or each other of course though, just wish all the alphabet crap wasn't in the way. Bryant Jennings is a guy who should be in this mix, he might be the best of the lot for my money.

[Max Power]

Fury and Chisora are even enough for a rematch I reckon Sure Fury won soundly but Chsiora wasn't in top shape there. The result might be the same. I'd back Fury again too as you said

As for the other fight, that fight warrants a rematch imo. I think Arreola would have had Stiverne were it not for that early shot.

It's just how Chris said it... If he had someone hurt like that he would have gotten them out of there but Stiverne didn't, he is not a finisher. And Chris had immense heart and fortitude to stay in there and get his ass kicked all night and survive. I reckon that'll be a very interesting rematch. Not a waste of time imo.

The only waste of time was Haye jerking Fury around but in reality it wasn't like that was it, Haye was just an idiot sparring so hard right before the fight and the injury was otherwise unlucky He could not have fought like that, that was a BAD injury, no doctor would allow it imo.

[ross]

Fury and Chisora are even enough for a rematch I reckon Sure Fury won soundly but Chsiora wasn't in top shape there. The result might be the same. I'd back Fury again too as you said

As for the other fight, that fight warrants a rematch imo. I think Arreola would have had Stiverne were it not for that early shot.

It's just how Chris said it... If he had someone hurt like that he would have gotten them out of there but Stiverne didn't, he is not a finisher. And Chris had immense heart and fortitude to stay in there and get his ass kicked all night and survive. I reckon that'll be a very interesting rematch. Not a waste of time imo.

The only waste of time was Haye jerking Fury around but in reality it wasn't like that was it, Haye was just an idiot sparring so hard right before the fight and the injury was otherwise unlucky He could not have fought like that, that was a BAD injury, no doctor would allow it imo.

If he didn't get ht he would have won?

Yeah, of course he would but but unfortunately all the fighters that have beaten him actually punch back and thats his big problem is he does get hit, too often. I don't believe he's suddenly turned in to Mayweather in the last year so expect him to get hit and hurt again.

[VG_Addict]

Would you say this era is strong, or is Wlad the proverbial one eyed man in the land of the blind?

[Master]

Would you say this era is strong, or is Wlad the proverbial one eyed man in the land of the blind?

The era is crap, apart from the Klit brothers who could mix it in any era especially Vitali, Wlad less so.

[Max Power]

Fury and Chisora are even enough for a rematch I reckon Sure Fury won soundly but Chsiora wasn't in top shape there. The result might be the same. I'd back Fury again too as you said

As for the other fight, that fight warrants a rematch imo. I think Arreola would have had Stiverne were it not for that early shot.

It's just how Chris said it... If he had someone hurt like that he would have gotten them out of there but Stiverne didn't, he is not a finisher. And Chris had immense heart and fortitude to stay in there and get his ass kicked all night and survive. I reckon that'll be a very interesting rematch. Not a waste of time imo.

The only waste of time was Haye jerking Fury around but in reality it wasn't like that was it, Haye was just an idiot sparring so hard right before the fight and the injury was otherwise unlucky He could not have fought like that, that was a BAD injury, no doctor would allow it imo.

If he didn't get ht he would have won?

Yeah, of course he would but but unfortunately all the fighters that have beaten him actually punch back and thats his big problem is he does get hit, too often. I don't believe he's suddenly turned in to Mayweather in the last year so expect him to get hit and hurt again.

Mayweather he is not by a long shot lol it wasn't like that though was it. Chris looked to be in control of things until he got pasted by that 1 shot! He'll be a little more cautious this time.

You see that's HW boxing today, Arreola has an iron chin and a very aggressive style and powerful Yet even though that can make for an explosive fight, 1 punch can turn the tide, so safety must always be considered. Yesteryear boxers were weaker to the point that they could use their face as a defence and still remain vertical for 15 rounds.

[Max Power]

Would you say this era is strong, or is Wlad the proverbial one eyed man in the land of the blind?

It's definitely one of the strongest eras, a woman, child or casual fan can see that straight away when they compare visually fights and fighters and records and stats.

It's just that Wlad is so special he has completely transformed HW boxing with his minimalist style.

Certainly, Wladimir would not be nearly as effective without his dimensions, but then again neither would have been Lennox Lewis or Muhammad Ali who out-talled nearly all of their opponents.

Several of Wladimir's top opponents would have punched their way straight to the top of most other eras. Fact!

[Max Power]

Would you say this era is strong, or is Wlad the proverbial one eyed man in the land of the blind?

The era is crap, apart from the Klit brothers who could mix it in any era especially Vitali, Wlad less so.

David Haye
Samuel Peter
Ruslan Chagaev
Sultan Ibragimov
Chris Arreola
Bermane Stiverne
Deontay Wilder
Bryant Jennings
Alexander Povetkin

The list goes on and on and on....

Any of the few fighters I listed off the top of my head above would easily obliterate almost any eras champions and would be evenly matched in the 90's!

[bradlee180]

But we must never lose sight of the fact that despite so many people saying today's Heavyweights are mediocre (or even outright crap ), any current Heavyweight right now in the Top 10 would absolutely CRUSH Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Juan Manuel Marquez, Tim Bradley, Sergio Martinez, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Carl Froch, or Manny Pacquiao; basically any of the top lighter weight class fighters!


...so modern heavies are not so crappy after all; they remain the top-of-the-food-chain, the REAL Top fighters in Boxing because what really matters isn't fiction like P4P, but who comes out on top when two men actually fight.

[Max Power]

Lb for lb also matters Bradley, nobody is naïve enough to claim that Pac Man or Floyd would obliterate the HW division are they!

[Mr140]

Dude this era get would get crushed by the 90's i mean even the champs had problems with the aging guys from the 90's. Vitaili lost to a old Lewis and Wald got kncoked out by a journeyman and a guy who was just a contender from the era lets not pump it up so much please dear god come on.

[Master]

Max that is the best you can offer from your list? You are a tit.