Chavez Jr Vs Chuck Liddell in a streetfight

[Violent Demise]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

Fun to disagree with you, as soon as Chuck saw it was going bad standing up, he'd have Jr down between a bench and a building or half way under a car while he stomped on his head or balls.

Stop trolling all the time, please.

There is no soon as. Chuck will never have a chance to consider adjusting. First solid punch Chavez lands he's knocking him out. Once your chin gets cracked it stays cracked. It never comes back. Liddell chin is beyond cracked. He wobbles every time his girl gives him a peck on the cheek. Look at the way his career ended. Those weren't referee stoppage KO's he suffered. Those were knocked the fuck out, give this muthafukka 10 minutes and lets pray to God he wakes up losses. And those weren't skilled punchers who were laying him out

You mean the way Randy Couture didn't have any time to adjust to James Toney?
Toney choose Couture because he wasn't a boxer at all, Couture was a wrestler and skilled at dirty boxing against the cage.
Toney new what was comimg, had months to train and still looked like a fool against Couture. How bad would things have gone for Toney if it had been an actual street fight? He would have been a bloody spot on the ground, the same way Chavez would look.

I saw former UFC champion Tim Silvia run his mouth claiming MMA was better than Boxing. And than I saw 98 year old Ray Mercer lay him out in less 15 seconds. All it took was one punch

[jehoshaphat]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

Fun to disagree with you, as soon as Chuck saw it was going bad standing up, he'd have Jr down between a bench and a building or half way under a car while he stomped on his head or balls.

Stop trolling all the time, please.

There is no soon as. Chuck will never have a chance to consider adjusting. First solid punch Chavez lands he's knocking him out. Once your chin gets cracked it stays cracked. It never comes back. Liddell chin is beyond cracked. He wobbles every time his girl gives him a peck on the cheek. Look at the way his career ended. Those weren't referee stoppage KO's he suffered. Those were knocked the fuck out, give this muthafukka 10 minutes and lets pray to God he wakes up losses. And those weren't skilled punchers who were laying him out

You mean the way Randy Couture didn't have any time to adjust to James Toney?
Toney choose Couture because he wasn't a boxer at all, Couture was a wrestler and skilled at dirty boxing against the cage.
Toney new what was comimg, had months to train and still looked like a fool against Couture. How bad would things have gone for Toney if it had been an actual street fight? He would have been a bloody spot on the ground, the same way Chavez would look.

I saw former UFC champion Tim Silvia run his mouth claiming MMA was better than Boxing. And than I saw 98 year old Ray Mercer lay him out in less 15 seconds. All it took was one punch

Sylvia never said MMA was better than boxing. In fact, Sylvia thought boxing was the best base and thought his boxing would fare the best in MMA. Sylvia was so delusional about his own boxing that he even thought he was a good boxer by boxing standards. So he agreed to fight Mercer to a stand up match inside of MMA rules. Sylvia was so confident that he agreed with Mercer that they would try to change the rules to just stand up but this was ruled not sanction(able) and so they agreed to just stand up and not change the rules. Sylvia thought he was somehow a great boxer because his MMA boxing was good. I know Miletich's team personally and some of them have trained with us. Miletich and Pulver, both who boxed enough to know, told me before the fight that they all tried to explain to him that he is making a mistake trying to stand with a former world class boxer. Sylvia was never an intelligent fighter and I heard(don't know the guy)one of his teammates say Sylvia doesn't work on his ground game much. I even heard Sylvia say that if he got taken down in an MMA fight he would just get back up. Guys like Sylvia and Tank Abbott were street fighters who kept that mentality. To be clear I think that I have seen enough that, outside of special strikers like Aldo or maybe Pettis, if the fight was stand up a good MMA stand up fighter would be less equipped to win a fight than a good boxer. That Sunday punch is a lot easier to land than to get kicked apart or kicked to sleep.

[beenKOed]

I have yet to see a muthafukka go for a submission in a street fight. First reaction is to start swinging punches. Which means the Ice Man gets iced

Fun to disagree with you, as soon as Chuck saw it was going bad standing up, he'd have Jr down between a bench and a building or half way under a car while he stomped on his head or balls.

Stop trolling all the time, please.

There is no soon as. Chuck will never have a chance to consider adjusting. First solid punch Chavez lands he's knocking him out. Once your chin gets cracked it stays cracked. It never comes back. Liddell chin is beyond cracked. He wobbles every time his girl gives him a peck on the cheek. Look at the way his career ended. Those weren't referee stoppage KO's he suffered. Those were knocked the fuck out, give this muthafukka 10 minutes and lets pray to God he wakes up losses. And those weren't skilled punchers who were laying him out

You mean the way Randy Couture didn't have any time to adjust to James Toney?
Toney choose Couture because he wasn't a boxer at all, Couture was a wrestler and skilled at dirty boxing against the cage.
Toney new what was comimg, had months to train and still looked like a fool against Couture. How bad would things have gone for Toney if it had been an actual street fight? He would have been a bloody spot on the ground, the same way Chavez would look.

I saw former UFC champion Tim Silvia run his mouth claiming MMA was better than Boxing. And than I saw 98 year old Ray Mercer lay him out in less 15 seconds. All it took was one punch

Sylvia never said MMA was better than boxing. In fact, Sylvia thought boxing was the best base and thought his boxing would fare the best in MMA. Sylvia was so delusional about his own boxing that he even thought he was a good boxer by boxing standards. So he agreed to fight Mercer to a stand up match inside of MMA rules. Sylvia was so confident that he agreed with Mercer that they would try to change the rules to just stand up but this was ruled not sanction(able) and so they agreed to just stand up and not change the rules. Sylvia thought he was somehow a great boxer because his MMA boxing was good. I know Miletich's team personally and some of them have trained with us. Miletich and Pulver, both who boxed enough to know, told me before the fight that they all tried to explain to him that he is making a mistake trying to stand with a former world class boxer. Sylvia was never an intelligent fighter and I heard(don't know the guy)one of his teammates say Sylvia doesn't work on his ground game much. I even heard Sylvia say that if he got taken down in an MMA fight he would just get back up. Guys like Sylvia and Tank Abbott were street fighters who kept that mentality. To be clear I think that I have seen enough that, outside of special strikers like Aldo or maybe Pettis, if the fight was stand up a good MMA stand up l
fighter would be less equipped to win a fight than a good boxer. That Sunday punch is a lot easier to land than to get kicked apart or kicked to sleep.

Like you said Sylvia was delusional and not the brightest in the same way Toney is.

Believe what you want, just don't bet against an MMA guy in a street fight because once it goes to the ground, where most street fights wind up, MMA prevails unless the size difference is massive.