Is Mayweather a all time great?

[El Kabong]

just out of curiosity, how many times has mayweather faced "slick boxers" on the level duran did? In fact, when has mayweather faced "slick boxers" at all?

that's a fair enough point, i don't think mayweather has ever fought someone like a benitez.

nooooooope....unadmissable there is no duran there is only floyd

[El Kabong]

Yuck. When did every poster here turn into a bunch of butt-hurt wimps who cry and resort to lame sarcasm whenever someone disagrees and actually, ya know, tries to debate them? Sweet Jesus.

I don't know....when did you?

[Master]

Floyd was best at the lower weight but he has proved a great fighter by dominating at a weight that is not his best weight. If there were great weltered like Leonard and Hearns he would get beaten. No shame.

[El Kabong]

Floyd was best at the lower weight but he has proved a great fighter by dominating at a weight that is not his best weight. If there were great weltered like Leonard and Hearns he would get beaten. No shame.

Nope, never, never ever would Floyd lose. Not vs Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Benitez, Sanchez, JCC, Argeullo, Pryor, not vs a single one of them......I bet Floyd could fight them all in 1 night, never lose a round, and not allow 1 single drop of sweat to hit the canvas.


Because he is Floyd.....and because of him Floyd now equals Greatest. There is only one Floyd, and he is no doubt Great, the Greatest of the Great....all must bow before him!

[El Kabong]

To be quite honest if Mayweather DID sandwich in 150 tomato cans between big fights HE'D FUCKING LOSE!!!

That's not a knock on how great of a fighter he is or isn't it's just the motherfucking odds on fighting anyone that fucking often!


But hell I guess when I say Floyd is great it's just not good enough for some posters.

[beenKOed]

Floyd is unique in boxing, he outsmarted some of the smartest minds in boxing to get control of his career and then turned around years later to hurt them even more when he switched to SHOWTIME, probably with Al Hamon's help.
Now he is The Man, the one everyone wants to fight, the guy who controls the lottery ticket. I don't always like the way he fights but it's great to watch him give the finger to Arum, HBO and at times the sanctioning bodies of boxing.
I don't know if that will help him or hurt him with the ATG list.

[walrus]

Floyd was best at the lower weight but he has proved a great fighter by dominating at a weight that is not his best weight. If there were great weltered like Leonard and Hearns he would get beaten. No shame.

Nope, never, never ever would Floyd lose. Not vs Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Benitez, Sanchez, JCC, Argeullo, Pryor, not vs a single one of them......I bet Floyd could fight them all in 1 night, never lose a round, and not allow 1 single drop of sweat to hit the canvas.


Because he is Floyd.....and because of him Floyd now equals Greatest. There is only one Floyd, and he is no doubt Great, the Greatest of the Great....all must bow before him!

Yes, I know where you are coming from. Passion is good but it goes to a crazy level with Floyd. If I express my passion for Manny people get uppity and I am a Pactard. I do tend to go on and on about Floyd's jab because I watch his fights just to see it but I think Manny is a better fighter, he's much more ballsy takes more chances is far more exciting to watch and has a funny accent. There, I said it.

[Max Power]

Floyd was best at the lower weight but he has proved a great fighter by dominating at a weight that is not his best weight. If there were great weltered like Leonard and Hearns he would get beaten. No shame.

Leonard would be a unique challenge for Floyd and he'd be in for what for there.

Hearns could not beat Mayweather.

[El Kabong]

Floyd was best at the lower weight but he has proved a great fighter by dominating at a weight that is not his best weight. If there were great weltered like Leonard and Hearns he would get beaten. No shame.

Leonard would be a unique challenge for Floyd and he'd be in for what for there.

Hearns could not beat Mayweather.

Based on?

[Max Power]

Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.

[Max Power]

Hagler too. After what I seen Floyd do to Canelo I doubt Hagler could really beat Floyd.

I have to be honest here. I am not appraising who I would like to win or how emotions say, only on who I think would win based on who I would actually bet a large sum of money on if I had to.

Of course Hagler has GREAT chances to beat Floyd of course, not to say he can't beat him. Just that most often he wouldn't.

[El Kabong]

You can believe that, and I can't say I agree with either but you have your ideas and presented them in a respectable manner.

[Max Power]

Maybe it was a bit over the top to say Hearns CANT beat him, he could also, I just can't imagine the scenario on fight night where it happens in fact.

Maybe I have been exposed to TV commercialisation of boxers like Floyd too much though and not of Hearns and Hagler so much, that could be it! lol

I look at them and see similarities with MArgarito and Alvarez, not same but similar shape and qualities.

[walrus]

Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.

I am not familiar with Hearns at all. Never seen him fight don't know his record but I think your brief description of his style makes sense that Floyd would do well against that particular style. I think after the Maidana fight we got a taste of what can beat Floyd.

[Max Power]

Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.

I am not familiar with Hearns at all. Never seen him fight don't know his record but I think your brief description of his style makes sense that Floyd would do well against that particular style. I think after the Maidana fight we got a taste of what can beat Floyd.

Well I was only a little kid when he was prominent but based on what I have seen, namely his famous fights, he was very very good, one of the best. But does get widely overrated as most famous boxers both past and current do. But Floyd is Floyd.

I would say that Floyd is the undisputed greatest wanker in history of the sport too if it weren't for his little brother Adrien Broner lol