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    Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

    Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.
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    Hagler too. After what I seen Floyd do to Canelo I doubt Hagler could really beat Floyd.

    I have to be honest here. I am not appraising who I would like to win or how emotions say, only on who I think would win based on who I would actually bet a large sum of money on if I had to.

    Of course Hagler has GREAT chances to beat Floyd of course, not to say he can't beat him. Just that most often he wouldn't.
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    You can believe that, and I can't say I agree with either but you have your ideas and presented them in a respectable manner.

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    Maybe it was a bit over the top to say Hearns CANT beat him, he could also, I just can't imagine the scenario on fight night where it happens in fact.

    Maybe I have been exposed to TV commercialisation of boxers like Floyd too much though and not of Hearns and Hagler so much, that could be it! lol

    I look at them and see similarities with MArgarito and Alvarez, not same but similar shape and qualities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

    Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.
    I am not familiar with Hearns at all. Never seen him fight don't know his record but I think your brief description of his style makes sense that Floyd would do well against that particular style. I think after the Maidana fight we got a taste of what can beat Floyd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

    Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.
    I am not familiar with Hearns at all. Never seen him fight don't know his record but I think your brief description of his style makes sense that Floyd would do well against that particular style. I think after the Maidana fight we got a taste of what can beat Floyd.
    Well I was only a little kid when he was prominent but based on what I have seen, namely his famous fights, he was very very good, one of the best. But does get widely overrated as most famous boxers both past and current do. But Floyd is Floyd.

    I would say that Floyd is the undisputed greatest wanker in history of the sport too if it weren't for his little brother Adrien Broner lol
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    Hearns would be a terrible match up for Mayweather his reach and power would be all she wrote. Hearns has a 80 inch reach dude Mayweather has always had the reach over his opponents. So if he can not outbox Hearns which no one ever did he would have to go for the kill and unlike Leonard his offense was not as good and i really do not think his chin would hold up if he went for the kill. As for Leonard i just think he would outwork Mayweather at ww not sure how Bentiez fight would go very boring. Duran Mayweather best beat but Jlc did give him a lot of problems. I think pac gets smashed by all the guys from the 80's because they were to big and were to fast and to well trained. Also when were talking about atg Mayweather is in the top 15 and pac i would say is in top 25 in my rankings anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Hearns would be a terrible match up for Mayweather his reach and power would be all she wrote. Hearns has a 80 inch reach dude Mayweather has always had the reach over his opponents. So if he can not outbox Hearns which no one ever did he would have to go for the kill and unlike Leonard his offense was not as good and i really do not think his chin would hold up if he went for the kill. As for Leonard i just think he would outwork Mayweather at ww not sure how Bentiez fight would go very boring. Duran Mayweather best beat but Jlc did give him a lot of problems. I think pac gets smashed by all the guys from the 80's because they were to big and were to fast and to well trained. Also when were talking about atg Mayweather is in the top 15 and pac i would say is in top 25 in my rankings anyhow.
    You must be on drugs with that post. Top 15 and 25... Really?

    They are both top 10, along with Leonard. Whether the other guys make it from the 80's idk because there have been and are so many good fighters lb for lb since as well.

    The Pac comment might have some merit because of Pac's natural size, I am unsure how big those 80's guys were now, Hagler sure he was pretty tank so that is a respectable opinion but to think that Hearns would be a favourite over Mayweather falls into a lighter category than your usual OTNB antics!

    I don't think Mayweather would really sweat the reach of Hearns all that much. As if Floyd could not outbox Hearns my god!

    Alvarez would have smashed Hagler. And look what Floyd did to him!

    The only guy I am certain would pose a real big threat to Floyd would be Leonard because of the all round talent and the athleticism. Floyd would still be the favourite though you gotta give him that.

    As for Pac. The prime+roided version. There is no telling how he could have performed against those bigger guys because they did not have the same speed or athleticism as Pac and definitely not the strength, synthetic as it was. Hagler and Leonard might have been too much for him to handle, much as I believe Canelo might be the same for Pac today.

    But Pac would smash the shit out of Hearns, I'd lay a sum on that!

    I really rate the 80's limit weight fighters highly, all of them are atleast top 20 and atleast Leonard close to the top. But this aura of invincibility your ascribing them is a bit over the top, they were the best there ever was THEN, MAYBE not now!

    And the degrading way you try to belittle both Pac and Floyd by ranking them out of the top 10 and even top 20 exposes you as a troll! lol

    No sober analyst could really swallow that garbage!
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    Lol dude Mayweather would lose to Leonard most just on out put Leonard had way better offense. He dealt with master in defense in Bentiez and tore him apart when he was not even prime yet. Hearns was a beast who carried his power up to fucking cw and was never out boxed in his prime. You think Oscar gave Mayweather problems please Hearns beats Mawyeather based on reach and size not mention be able to box near the same level. Hearns is the worst fucking match up for Mayweather besides Leonard that i can think of and if you don't think so all i can say is you overrate this era more then old timers do theres all i have to say. You make some ok points but on this one i think full of shit really anyhow oh well. I mean if a 34 year Old Oscar fighting part time could give Mayweather a go and think Hearns can't i really don't know dude.

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    Pac got fucking flattened by fucking Jmm he not lasting a second with Hearns. The second he goes in and is of blanced and countered he is going to sleep Duran style my friend. Hearns fucking lost one time to Leonard at ww and he had to go through Hell to get to Hearns you underrate them very badly.

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