Is Mayweather a all time great?

[Mr140]

Demsey didn't even fight the best people because good amount of them were black so he not on any of my lists he even admits to the shit. The only fighters i would rate over Mayweather in the past 25 years of fighting are the Following Holyfeild and Lewis. Reason for Lewis is because he was one of the best Heavyweights to ever walk the planet and avenged his losses and beat the shit out the next generation Champ making his a face a fucking Vag. As for Holyfeild most talk about pound for pound a lot around here but Holyfeild despite starting at 175 went on to beat hof in his 12th fight and become invincible at cw then went up to heavyweight in its deepest era and beat damn near everyone while being out weight 20 to 40 pounds. You can point at his lose but most of them were after he was 40 if Mayweather stays in the game till he is 48 years old he gonna have that 0 erased. Let me say i hold hw division in high regard and that fact that Holyfeild Moved up and is consider by most to be a top 10 atg hw says alot to me. but thats just how i feel i am open to debate as long as we don't bash the greats now and of yesteryear please.

[Max Power]

Demsey didn't even fight the best people because good amount of them were black so he not on any of my lists he even admits to the shit. The only fighters i would rate over Mayweather in the past 25 years of fighting are the Following Holyfeild and Lewis. Reason for Lewis is because he was one of the best Heavyweights to ever walk the planet and avenged his losses and beat the shit out the next generation Champ making his a face a fucking Vag. As for Holyfeild most talk about pound for pound a lot around here but Holyfeild despite starting at 175 went on to beat hof in his 12th fight and become invincible at cw then went up to heavyweight in its deepest era and beat damn near everyone while being out weight 20 to 40 pounds. You can point at his lose but most of them were after he was 40 if Mayweather stays in the game till he is 48 years old he gonna have that 0 erased. Let me say i hold hw division in high regard and that fact that Holyfeild Moved up and is consider by most to be a top 10 atg hw says alot to me. but thats just how i feel i am open to debate as long as we don't bash the greats now and of yesteryear please.

Right, here I agree with you completely about Dempsey. in fact I would go so far as to say he was a bum champion. That's right a bum! His career has been described as all "smoke and mirrors" by some very knowlegable people (mates of mine lol).

And sure Holyfield is understandable, his performance at CW has been unparalleled and subsequently winning the HW title 4 times in that era qualifies him. But Lewis, although my favourite HW and possibly the best one there ever has been, does not qualify for a lb for lb greatness.

HW boxing and limited weight division boxing are kind of like different sports, the game is the same but the nature of being able to come in all shapes and sizes makes the playing field necessarily complicated and sometimes unfair!

Holyfield yes, Lennox no, Dempsey HELL no, Mayweather probably number 1 (that is if the gimp can prove he can beat Pac!)

[Max Power]

Oscar De La Hoya is also one of the toppest boxers.

34 is not old for a boxer these days, hasn't been for a long time.

mid 30's is the NATURAL PRIME of a boxer! Now they are allowed to reach it!

As for Hearns power, do you really think that he could hit harder than some of the opponents of Mayweather? Seriously, take a look at them.

Take a REAL good look at Hearns and then guys like Alvarez. You bring those guys in to fight Floyd at a catch weight (lb for lb) and you will see what I mean.

Also let's not forget a very important issue for this topic. What was THEN considered a certain weight range, TODAY is in actual fact about 2 weight ranges below, Why? Because of the weigh in process and the dehydration they now undertake.

I think you overrate the admittedly great talents of Hearns (I in fact declared that remember) but most strikingly you have devastatingly underrated the abilities of Mayweather!

The guys a dick but please I have never seen such incredible skills.

And Benitez please, PLEASE! How can you compare the levels there!

[Mr140]

Hearns carried his power all the way through to cw the man was a legit champ at Lhw. Jmm is a 40 year old man who weighed less then Hearns had less reach and power and laid out fucking Pac like he killed him i thought he was dead. Who has Pac koed besides Cotto who was a prime contender at 147 i mean he really has not am i wrong. As for the Ginger Kid he his best win is Trout close fight and then lost every fucking round to Mayweather so how good he is i do not know. Bentiez is closer to Mayweathers skill then you think and Leonard destroyed him who is close to Leonard that Mayweather has beat. Oscar was a part time fighter at the time look what he went on to do after words not mention he lost a lot of his big fights yet he gave Mayweather hell with his reach and jab something Leonard and Hearns were better at.