techniques you feel aren't used enough?

[Ron Swanson]

I was never coached to use the jab, straight, left hook. Do you escape left generally, turn and reset?

Yes, all the great trainers insisted on it for that reason.

That was one of the first real combinations other than a one-two that I was taught. And forced to practice it regularly. But that was 25 years ago.

Yeah, we always did the combination on the mits but it was never really part of our match plan. I've always been tall for my class so our approach was jab heavy, one two, throwaway hooks and straight rights. Could have been because my left hook sucked too.

[Beanflicker]

Another thing regarding the jab you don't see much is changing up the speed to avoid getting timed. Being Canadian I am forced by law to watch hockey. I remember reading an article by an opponent of Wayne Gretzky saying that he would seem to be skating at a certain pace and as soon as you think you have him timed for a check or whatever he suddenly shifts gears one way or another before you even get there.

A lot of athletes in other sports do that and for sure it is a good technique. Wrestlers in particular.
There's a guy in the UFC who's a Cuban Olympic wrestler and freak athlete. Incredible explosiveness. He changes speed so much and will lull guys in and once they think he's a certain speed, he explodes and catches guys with haymakers.

[J_Undisputed]

Circling out. Positioning used to be import for offense and defense. Everyone wants to stand flatfooted in front of someone now and swing away, only moving at the waist for defense.

Parrying - so many fighters now lead with their face, or go into a shell. Parrying use to be a great way to offset your opponents offense and have him out of position to defend the counter.

The uppercut is slowly slipping out of use too by many fighters because they feel it exposes them and they dont get a lot of power on it because many fighters square up now and dont have their feet set right to step into it or turn at the waist to get full power on it. Its become an arm punch for a lot of pitty pat fighters.

[walrus]

Damn, good thread good responses. I remember an interview with Foreman when he said he credited his resurgence with his jab. He said he had deep regret about ignoring the jab during his early years. At the time he said he felt the jab was beginning a lost art. I think combinations have also taken a back seat theses days. It seems a lot of fighters are content hitting and quitting. Floyd's jab is phenomenal and Mannys combos are amazing and light years ahead of the competition. I do notice a bit of a resurgence on these things on the Shobox up and comers. Perhaps we are heading towards a renaissance. As far as the HW decision goes, it really seems to be full of holes with a lot of fighters. Probably why people have lost interest in it

[Master]

Body shots, left hook to the body like Chavez and Hatton use to do.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Infighting, uppercuts, and jabs to the body... floyd keeps niggas in check with jabs to the body but a lot of guys dont use it.

[walrus]

Infighting, uppercuts, and jabs to the body... floyd keeps niggas in check with jabs to the body but a lot of guys dont use it.

Good pick Finito, uppercuts, catch opponents off guard, powerful puch don't see it a lot. The Ghost was effective with it but it looks like by the time he fights again he will be in the senior circut

[Master]

Infighting, uppercuts, and jabs to the body... floyd keeps niggas in check with jabs to the body but a lot of guys dont use it.

Good pick Finito, uppercuts, catch opponents off guard, powerful puch don't see it a lot. The Ghost was effective with it but it looks like by the time he fights again he will be in the senior circut

Some of these fighters after fighting Floyd and Manny seem to get spoilt and lazy and think they should get big money for turning up and losing.

[DannyV297]

The KostyaTszyu range finder.

[DannyV297]

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I was told a jab can be hard, fast, soft, range finder, stay busy, type action. It is the first thing a tired fighters forgets.

Another thing regarding the jab you don't see much is changing up the speed to avoid getting timed. Being Canadian I am forced by law to watch hockey. I remember reading an article by an opponent of Wayne Gretzky saying that he would seem to be skating at a certain pace and as soon as you think you have him timed for a check or whatever he suddenly shifts gears one way or another before you even get there.


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Hey man, I love hockey and Gretz used to do that quite often.

[IamInuit]

[QUOTE=DannyV297;1244647]

I was told a jab can be hard, fast, soft, range finder, stay busy, type action. It is the first thing a tired fighters forgets.

Another thing regarding the jab you don't see much is changing up the speed to avoid getting timed. Being Canadian I am forced by law to watch hockey. I remember reading an article by an opponent of Wayne Gretzky saying that he would seem to be skating at a certain pace and as soon as you think you have him timed for a check or whatever he suddenly shifts gears one way or another before you even get there.


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Hey man, I love hockey and Gretz used to do that quite often.

Guy was incredible. Like trying to body check a piece of rope.


Great suggestions in this thread.

Feinting is a lost art. Mike McCallum was something else.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

More of a concept but Switching stances... I really like the idea of changing lanes. Not this short sighted idea of keeping your opponent guessing but working on your opponents weaknesses where applicable. Won't work on a whim but there are plenty of scenarios where simply changing stances would be mostly beneficial.

Its the same principle as keeping fighter on the backfoot, or making then chase you. That's just the x axis.

If you can master the y axis then you're going to be at an advantage.

[Master]

More of a concept but Switching stances... I really like the idea of changing lanes. Not this short sighted idea of keeping your opponent guessing but working on your opponents weaknesses where applicable. Won't work on a whim but there are plenty of scenarios where simply changing stances would be mostly beneficial.

Its the same principle as keeping fighter on the backfoot, or making then chase you. That's just the x axis.

If you can master the y axis then you're going to be at an advantage.

Some fighters just confuse themselves switch hitting.

[Andre]

More of a concept but Switching stances... I really like the idea of changing lanes. Not this short sighted idea of keeping your opponent guessing but working on your opponents weaknesses where applicable. Won't work on a whim but there are plenty of scenarios where simply changing stances would be mostly beneficial.

Its the same principle as keeping fighter on the backfoot, or making then chase you. That's just the x axis.

If you can master the y axis then you're going to be at an advantage.

Some fighters just confuse themselves switch hitting.

Its because they do it for all the wrong reasons.
Anyone who switches well out of range is just trying to fight the other way around to see if there are any gains for or against, or to put their opponent off their game or rhythm after losing ground themselves.You'd have to be a great ambidextrous fighter with deep understanding to do that at will and gain each time.

If you switch in range without them first reacting you are going to leave one hell of a gap up the middle at one point in time mid switch and you are going to be square to them and can toppled backwards easily if they are sharp or if you try it twice. If they do a rare flying or leaping hook you are going to get caught square and probably down for a count you want to be able to cover that gap by range or control of them.

If you switch feet and duck out of a situation where they are already attacking and moving in you can go from inside their arms to outside their lead arm while attacking over it with your new lead arm then under it with your rear as you close them up.that way is safe cause you are switching out away from their rear arm and dealing with their lead arm continually.

Switching out from being trapped on the ropes is an old art too.Or pull them in toward you(so they react by pulling away) then you go with them,or the reverse where you push on them bodily they lean into you in reaction then you switch places with them using their momentum or cover up and slide your lead leg backwards crouch sit on the middle rope to give yourself room and switch feet and duck out under his lead arm and rip one up the inside as you are leaving.

[Andre]

Checking an arm with a raised elbow after landing a shot with the same arm gets used a bit more these days but not enough.