UK - Council and European Election

[Kirkland Laing]

Dark Lord Al you are entitled to your opinion but do not mix refugees with immigrants.

Also the real issues are the bankers being subsidised, cuts in public services through dogma and political ideology and millionaires being allowed to avoid taxes.

yes those are issues - but just the same as what Al highlights you knobrot. All real issues

I was out in Leeds late other night and was shocked at the number on the streets in town centre just lined up in shop doorways. Enough

The rest and most of them are doing low paid jobs that most people on benefits do not want to do such as cleaning toilets, working in care homes and doing night shifts.

So you make the people on the dole do those job for fucks sake , you change the system , if an immigrant is on a low income he doesn't even pay tax , and we give his family and him health care and education , for fucks sake do the fucking maths .

Do you see me write aggressively, getting emotional, swearing and calling you names?

Reality is the immigrants work for below the minimum wage which is why people are benefits do not take them as they are better off on benefits. They are here because they can earn a better standard of living here than over there. Yes they use the NHS and some commit crimes but where they can they contribute to our culture, society and the economy, as will their children and subsequent generation.

The thing is the "contribute to society" bit is normally a contribution to big and small business profits. It's great for business and the country's GDP but not so great for the people already living in the country as they face increased competition for work, housing, access to school places, healthcare and other social services.

"Contribute to society" is just a mantra repeated by politicians who are just a bunch of corporate servants, saying what they're told to say by the people who fund their parties.

It is also a real concept, they pay taxes, play a role in the community as do we all. Why should it not be different for them and their children?

It's a case of balancing the positives and negatives of immigration. Right now all the positives accrue to a tiny minority of the existing population while all the negatives fall on the vast majority of the existing population.

[Master]

Dark Lord Al you are entitled to your opinion but do not mix refugees with immigrants.

Also the real issues are the bankers being subsidised, cuts in public services through dogma and political ideology and millionaires being allowed to avoid taxes.

yes those are issues - but just the same as what Al highlights you knobrot. All real issues

I was out in Leeds late other night and was shocked at the number on the streets in town centre just lined up in shop doorways. Enough

The rest and most of them are doing low paid jobs that most people on benefits do not want to do such as cleaning toilets, working in care homes and doing night shifts.

So you make the people on the dole do those job for fucks sake , you change the system , if an immigrant is on a low income he doesn't even pay tax , and we give his family and him health care and education , for fucks sake do the fucking maths .

Do you see me write aggressively, getting emotional, swearing and calling you names?

Reality is the immigrants work for below the minimum wage which is why people are benefits do not take them as they are better off on benefits. They are here because they can earn a better standard of living here than over there. Yes they use the NHS and some commit crimes but where they can they contribute to our culture, society and the economy, as will their children and subsequent generation.

The thing is the "contribute to society" bit is normally a contribution to big and small business profits. It's great for business and the country's GDP but not so great for the people already living in the country as they face increased competition for work, housing, access to school places, healthcare and other social services.

"Contribute to society" is just a mantra repeated by politicians who are just a bunch of corporate servants, saying what they're told to say by the people who fund their parties.

It is also a real concept, they pay taxes, play a role in the community as do we all. Why should it not be different for them and their children?

It's a case of balancing the positives and negatives of immigration. Right now all the positives accrue to a tiny minority of the existing population while all the negatives fall on the vast majority of the existing population.

The positives come when their children get educated and earn good salaries and they pay taxes.

[Kirkland Laing]

Dark Lord Al you are entitled to your opinion but do not mix refugees with immigrants.

Also the real issues are the bankers being subsidised, cuts in public services through dogma and political ideology and millionaires being allowed to avoid taxes.

yes those are issues - but just the same as what Al highlights you knobrot. All real issues

I was out in Leeds late other night and was shocked at the number on the streets in town centre just lined up in shop doorways. Enough

The rest and most of them are doing low paid jobs that most people on benefits do not want to do such as cleaning toilets, working in care homes and doing night shifts.

So you make the people on the dole do those job for fucks sake , you change the system , if an immigrant is on a low income he doesn't even pay tax , and we give his family and him health care and education , for fucks sake do the fucking maths .

Do you see me write aggressively, getting emotional, swearing and calling you names?

Reality is the immigrants work for below the minimum wage which is why people are benefits do not take them as they are better off on benefits. They are here because they can earn a better standard of living here than over there. Yes they use the NHS and some commit crimes but where they can they contribute to our culture, society and the economy, as will their children and subsequent generation.

The thing is the "contribute to society" bit is normally a contribution to big and small business profits. It's great for business and the country's GDP but not so great for the people already living in the country as they face increased competition for work, housing, access to school places, healthcare and other social services.

"Contribute to society" is just a mantra repeated by politicians who are just a bunch of corporate servants, saying what they're told to say by the people who fund their parties.

It is also a real concept, they pay taxes, play a role in the community as do we all. Why should it not be different for them and their children?

It's a case of balancing the positives and negatives of immigration. Right now all the positives accrue to a tiny minority of the existing population while all the negatives fall on the vast majority of the existing population.

The positives come when their children get educated and earn good salaries and they pay taxes.

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So you get a vast number of negatives for twenty years before you may, if the kids so actually gain skilled work rather than just adding to the pool of unskilled labour, get a positive.

I told you last week that the vast majority of immigrants are just adding to the un and semi skilled labout pool and driving down wages of existing Brits, competing with them for housing and social services. And look what we get at the weekend. Old Labour surfaces :

Ed Miliband is facing a backbench revolt over immigration policy as senior Labour MPs publicly warn of catastrophic consequences for the party unless he seeks constraints on the free movement of EU workers.The unrestricted entry of EU citizens from eastern Europe since 2004 is hurting the "very communities that the Labour party was founded to represent", the MPs claim in an open letter published in the Observer.


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The Labour MPs, who represent constituencies from across Britain, claim that "concern with immigration has become an increasingly important priority for a large proportion of working- and middle-class voters".
In one section of the letter they write: "Whilst the benefits of mass migration have been served in abundance to many wealthy people, who are in a position to take advantage of cheap labour, we believe that the lack of affordable housing, school places, hospital capacity and transport infrastructure to accommodate this influx of people means that poorer people's living standards have been squeezed."








Labour must take tougher line on 'mass migration' from Europe, Miliband told | Politics | The Observer




Also, the Danish version of UKIP, the DPP won their elections:




"I think they were going to vote for the DPP, period. The sad fact, speaking as a lifelong Social Democrat, is this: we no longer represent the people we claim to represent. There's a disconnect between voters and the political class."
At fault, Fogh said, is partly a system that produces "young politicians, very bright, very decent, very able – but political science or law graduates who've shaped their lives into becoming politicians, and who represent no one. If you want to represent the working class, you know, it might help to have a few people who've actually worked."
It is an alienation from career politicians perceived as at best out-of-touch and at worst self-serving or corrupt that was also reflected, on the right, in record support for Marine Le Pen's Front National in France and Ukip in Britain, and on the left in countries such as Greece, where the anti-austerity radicals of Syriza topped the poll, and Spain, where a 100-day-old citizen's party, Podemos, captured five seats.
That popular detachment is aggravated in Denmark and elsewhere, Fogh said, by the traditional parties of the right and left pursuing "almost the same policies. Here, there are heated rows about whether the public sector should be frozen, or grow by 0.5% over 15 years. That's it. This is now the fault line. How many people feel that discussion is relevant to them?"


Denmark votes to defend meatballs – via party with the ordinary voice | World news | theguardian.com




The Labour backbenchers are now calling for a points system of immigration like Australia has, like I was advocating last week.


The big problem is that our politicians arrogantly assumed they could run the country without following Kirkland Laing's advice. Now they're beginning to accept the folly of not having listened to the advice of Kirkland Laing, The Infallible One.