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    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.
    Feb 26-2014 from Oscar

    "All the animosity, all the bad words that have been going back and forth, there's no need for it. Boxing is a sport that I dearly love and we're both adults. Bob Arum did a lot for my career and I greatly appreciate it. I can honestly say that I love the guy because he's someone who did a lot for my career and really catapulted my career and did a tremendous job in promoting my career. He's a master at what he does. ... I will meet with Bob Arum one day, and I will sit down with him, and I do hope things get worked out and patched up, because that's what the fans need. The boxing fans want to see all these great fights happen."
    May 4-2014 from Floyd Myweather

    "Richard always has a home over here. We would love to work with him hand in hand if he has any problems over there because we know it's a company Richard Schaefer built. We working hand in hand already. We would love to work with Richard. He's a great guy, a great father. Richard knows the door is always open. Richard Schaefer knows he's family."
    Oscar is starting to look the odd man out because with Floyd's comments it would seem there is a 3-way split instead of a 2 and with Floyd goes all of Haymons fighters,

    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Adonis Stevenson
    Amir Khan
    Peter Quillin
    Josesito Lopez
    Erislandy Lara
    Cristobal Arreola
    Devon Alexander
    Adrien Broner
    Kyrone Davis
    Andre Berto
    Danny Garcia
    Austin Trout
    Lamont Peterson
    Anthony Peterson
    Seth Mitchell
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Sakio Bika
    J'Leon Love
    Omar Figueroa
    Leo Santa Cruz
    John Molina, Jr.
    Deontay Wilder
    Lucas Matthysse
    Chris Pearson
    Errol Spence
    Marcos Maidana
    Julian Williams
    Keith Thurman
    Paulie Malignaggi
    Robert Guerrero
    Shawn Porter
    Luis Collazo
    The Charlo brothers
    Rances Barthelemy

    That leaves Oscar with Hopkins, Mares, Alvarez and a hand full of gate keepers and prospects. He may find himself crawling back to Hbo and taking a back seat. We may get a few fights out of this which is good but I think the wall of ice between Floyd ergo Haymon/ Arum will continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.
    Feb 26-2014 from Oscar

    "All the animosity, all the bad words that have been going back and forth, there's no need for it. Boxing is a sport that I dearly love and we're both adults. Bob Arum did a lot for my career and I greatly appreciate it. I can honestly say that I love the guy because he's someone who did a lot for my career and really catapulted my career and did a tremendous job in promoting my career. He's a master at what he does. ... I will meet with Bob Arum one day, and I will sit down with him, and I do hope things get worked out and patched up, because that's what the fans need. The boxing fans want to see all these great fights happen."
    May 4-2014 from Floyd Myweather

    "Richard always has a home over here. We would love to work with him hand in hand if he has any problems over there because we know it's a company Richard Schaefer built. We working hand in hand already. We would love to work with Richard. He's a great guy, a great father. Richard knows the door is always open. Richard Schaefer knows he's family."
    Oscar is starting to look the odd man out because with Floyd's comments it would seem there is a 3-way split instead of a 2 and with Floyd goes all of Haymons fighters,

    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Adonis Stevenson
    Amir Khan
    Peter Quillin
    Josesito Lopez
    Erislandy Lara
    Cristobal Arreola
    Devon Alexander
    Adrien Broner
    Kyrone Davis
    Andre Berto
    Danny Garcia
    Austin Trout
    Lamont Peterson
    Anthony Peterson
    Seth Mitchell
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Sakio Bika
    J'Leon Love
    Omar Figueroa
    Paul Williams
    Leo Santa Cruz
    John Molina, Jr.
    Deontay Wilder
    Lucas Matthysse
    Chris Pearson
    Errol Spence
    Marcos Maidana
    Julian Williams
    Keith Thurman
    Paulie Malignaggi
    Robert Guerrero
    Shawn Porter
    Luis Collazo
    The Charlo brothers
    Rances Barthelemy

    That leaves Oscar with Hopkins, Mares, Alvarez and a hand full of gate keepers and prospects. He may find himself crawling back to Hbo and taking a back seat. We may get a few fights out of this which is good but I think the wall of ice between Floyd ergo Haymon/ Arum will continue.

    That's sort of how I feel. We'll get a couple fights Bob wants and once Bob has gotten what he wants suddenly they'll have problems again so Bob doesn't have to give Oscar the fights Oscar wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.
    Feb 26-2014 from Oscar

    "All the animosity, all the bad words that have been going back and forth, there's no need for it. Boxing is a sport that I dearly love and we're both adults. Bob Arum did a lot for my career and I greatly appreciate it. I can honestly say that I love the guy because he's someone who did a lot for my career and really catapulted my career and did a tremendous job in promoting my career. He's a master at what he does. ... I will meet with Bob Arum one day, and I will sit down with him, and I do hope things get worked out and patched up, because that's what the fans need. The boxing fans want to see all these great fights happen."
    May 4-2014 from Floyd Myweather

    "Richard always has a home over here. We would love to work with him hand in hand if he has any problems over there because we know it's a company Richard Schaefer built. We working hand in hand already. We would love to work with Richard. He's a great guy, a great father. Richard knows the door is always open. Richard Schaefer knows he's family."
    Oscar is starting to look the odd man out because with Floyd's comments it would seem there is a 3-way split instead of a 2 and with Floyd goes all of Haymons fighters,

    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Adonis Stevenson
    Amir Khan
    Peter Quillin
    Josesito Lopez
    Erislandy Lara
    Cristobal Arreola
    Devon Alexander
    Adrien Broner
    Kyrone Davis
    Andre Berto
    Danny Garcia
    Austin Trout
    Lamont Peterson
    Anthony Peterson
    Seth Mitchell
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Sakio Bika
    J'Leon Love
    Omar Figueroa
    Paul Williams
    Leo Santa Cruz
    John Molina, Jr.
    Deontay Wilder
    Lucas Matthysse
    Chris Pearson
    Errol Spence
    Marcos Maidana
    Julian Williams
    Keith Thurman
    Paulie Malignaggi
    Robert Guerrero
    Shawn Porter
    Luis Collazo
    The Charlo brothers
    Rances Barthelemy

    That leaves Oscar with Hopkins, Mares, Alvarez and a hand full of gate keepers and prospects. He may find himself crawling back to Hbo and taking a back seat. We may get a few fights out of this which is good but I think the wall of ice between Floyd ergo Haymon/ Arum will continue.

    That's sort of how I feel. We'll get a couple fights Bob wants and once Bob has gotten what he wants suddenly they'll have problems again so Bob doesn't have to give Oscar the fights Oscar wants.

    Cant explain the May 4th date for that quote. Found the article.

    Floyd Mayweather says Richard Schaefer has a home at Mayweather Promotions, if needed - Bad Left Hook

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.
    Feb 26-2014 from Oscar

    "All the animosity, all the bad words that have been going back and forth, there's no need for it. Boxing is a sport that I dearly love and we're both adults. Bob Arum did a lot for my career and I greatly appreciate it. I can honestly say that I love the guy because he's someone who did a lot for my career and really catapulted my career and did a tremendous job in promoting my career. He's a master at what he does. ... I will meet with Bob Arum one day, and I will sit down with him, and I do hope things get worked out and patched up, because that's what the fans need. The boxing fans want to see all these great fights happen."
    May 4-2014 from Floyd Myweather

    "Richard always has a home over here. We would love to work with him hand in hand if he has any problems over there because we know it's a company Richard Schaefer built. We working hand in hand already. We would love to work with Richard. He's a great guy, a great father. Richard knows the door is always open. Richard Schaefer knows he's family."
    Oscar is starting to look the odd man out because with Floyd's comments it would seem there is a 3-way split instead of a 2 and with Floyd goes all of Haymons fighters,

    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Adonis Stevenson
    Amir Khan
    Peter Quillin
    Josesito Lopez
    Erislandy Lara
    Cristobal Arreola
    Devon Alexander
    Adrien Broner
    Kyrone Davis
    Andre Berto
    Danny Garcia
    Austin Trout
    Lamont Peterson
    Anthony Peterson
    Seth Mitchell
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Sakio Bika
    J'Leon Love
    Omar Figueroa
    Leo Santa Cruz
    John Molina, Jr.
    Deontay Wilder
    Lucas Matthysse
    Chris Pearson
    Errol Spence
    Marcos Maidana
    Julian Williams
    Keith Thurman
    Paulie Malignaggi
    Robert Guerrero
    Shawn Porter
    Luis Collazo
    The Charlo brothers
    Rances Barthelemy

    That leaves Oscar with Hopkins, Mares, Alvarez and a hand full of gate keepers and prospects. He may find himself crawling back to Hbo and taking a back seat. We may get a few fights out of this which is good but I think the wall of ice between Floyd ergo Haymon/ Arum will continue.

    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.

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    What they need to do now is to make the first GBP/TR fight card (after the so called cold war) a success and everything will be fine for GBP (and TR).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.
    You seriously think Mayweather is gonna start paying fighters out of his own pocket? He might not have a problem taking care of the Mickey Bay, Badou Jack type purses. But not the fighters with 6, 7 figure purses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.
    You seriously think Mayweather is gonna start paying fighters out of his own pocket? He might not have a problem taking care of the Mickey Bay, Badou Jack type purses. But not the fighters with 6, 7 figure purses.

    I don't think he will have to pay fighters out of his own pocket. He will use other peoples money and lines of credit just like Arum and any other promoter throughout history. After he leaves and Manny maybe boxing will come back to some sense of reality.

    Btw I hope this whole gig flops for all and we see the end of ppv's and ridiculous pay scales. I hope boxing is forced to rebuild itself. I've always been a fan of quality over quantity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.
    You seriously think Mayweather is gonna start paying fighters out of his own pocket? He might not have a problem taking care of the Mickey Bay, Badou Jack type purses. But not the fighters with 6, 7 figure purses.

    I don't think he will have to pay fighters out of his own pocket. He will use other peoples money and lines of credit just like Arum and any other promoter throughout history. After he leaves and Manny maybe boxing will come back to some sense of reality.

    Btw I hope this whole gig flops for all and we see the end of ppv's and ridiculous pay scales. I hope boxing is forced to rebuild itself. I've always been a fan of quality over quantity.
    Sir, I don't ever want to be without PPV or something like it.
    I remember the good old days when you didn't see the fight if it was not on TV or in a theater on "closed circuit". Of course you could hear it on the radio most of the time, or read about it the next day, or hear about it on the nightly news. If you had money to burn you could always travel to wherever the hell the fight was and buy your self a ticket.
    I still don't have money to burn and I can watch just about any fight I want in my living-room, thanks to PPV.
    If you want to set in front of your computer, scheming about streaming, go right ahead but don't fuck with my PPV!! Consider that an order not to be countermanded by anyone. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.
    You seriously think Mayweather is gonna start paying fighters out of his own pocket? He might not have a problem taking care of the Mickey Bay, Badou Jack type purses. But not the fighters with 6, 7 figure purses.
    Take off Oscar's lace underwear and try to learn something.

    The promoter works for the fighter not the other way around.

    GBP isn't paying anybody...the fighters are paying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.
    You seriously think Mayweather is gonna start paying fighters out of his own pocket? He might not have a problem taking care of the Mickey Bay, Badou Jack type purses. But not the fighters with 6, 7 figure purses.
    Oscar doesn't pay fighters out of his own pocket. Fighters get paid from TV, gate and sponsorship money on a fight by fight basis. Whoever makes the fight, whether it's Oscar or Arum or Schaefer/Haymon or whoever collects all the various revenues and then pays the fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    A bunch of them fighters will return. Cuz while they might not of been signed to Golden Boy. it was Golden Boy paying them. Who's gonna pay them now? Mayweather? Haymon? Schaefer? Good luck with that

    I doubt that very much. Those three have more pull and more cash then Oscar. Oscar has lost touch and making statements now that he will end the cold war. What cold war? The freeze was never about him. That is to much blow thinking it is. He's got a Tony Montana complex. He has no fighters and showtime is in Floyds pocket along with all the new gen fighters and the 18 to 30 year old buying public. Oscar is now crawling to Arum because he has to not out of some idea of moral obligation.
    You seriously think Mayweather is gonna start paying fighters out of his own pocket? He might not have a problem taking care of the Mickey Bay, Badou Jack type purses. But not the fighters with 6, 7 figure purses.
    Oscar doesn't pay fighters out of his own pocket. Fighters get paid from TV, gate and sponsorship money on a fight by fight basis. Whoever makes the fight, whether it's Oscar or Arum or Schaefer/Haymon or whoever collects all the various revenues and then pays the fighters.
    Amen to that.

    AMAZING how many people don't know this simple fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.
    I couldn't agree more. I'm looking forward to seeing what company Mayweather uses to promote his next fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dre23000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I doubt this will work out in a way that should be celebrated. Oscar is dumb as a box of rocks. Arum will play him. We can hope for the best but I doubt this is good for anyone but Arum.
    I couldn't agree more. I'm looking forward to seeing what company Mayweather uses to promote his next fight.
    TMT will likely be promoting his next fight.

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