Somebody show me when Sergios knee fell apart

[chris6878]

Martinez was taken to Roosevelt Hospital in Manhattan following the fight and missed the post-fight press conference. An MRI revealed that Martinez suffered a broken nose, but his right knee and left hand, which had been damaged in his last fight in April of 2013, were fine, Lewkowicz said. DiBella said an additional CT Scan revealed "no abnormalities." Martinez was discharged at 5 a.m. on Sunday and traveled back home to Spain later in the day, Lewkowicz said.

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sp

So he had no knee injury then 0_o

phantom pain. proably not used to his new knees. im sorry, but I looked like his legs would give out after each punch

[ross]

Martinez was taken to Roosevelt Hospital in Manhattan following the fight and missed the post-fight press conference. An MRI revealed that Martinez suffered a broken nose, but his right knee and left hand, which had been damaged in his last fight in April of 2013, were fine, Lewkowicz said. DiBella said an additional CT Scan revealed "no abnormalities." Martinez was discharged at 5 a.m. on Sunday and traveled back home to Spain later in the day, Lewkowicz said.

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sp

So he had no knee injury then 0_o

phantom pain. proably not used to his new knees. im sorry, but I looked like his legs would give out after each punch

Thats because Cotto caught him good and early.

Now you all have proof that Martinez knees were fine, shut up whining and accept he just got the shit punched out of him by a former light welter.

Maybe there were random tests?

[cyclone]

Martinez was taken to Roosevelt Hospital in Manhattan following the fight and missed the post-fight press conference. An MRI revealed that Martinez suffered a broken nose, but his right knee and left hand, which had been damaged in his last fight in April of 2013, were fine, Lewkowicz said. DiBella said an additional CT Scan revealed "no abnormalities." Martinez was discharged at 5 a.m. on Sunday and traveled back home to Spain later in the day, Lewkowicz said.

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sp

So he had no knee injury then 0_o

phantom pain. proably not used to his new knees. im sorry, but I looked like his legs would give out after each punch

Thats because Cotto caught him good and early.

Now you all have proof that Martinez knees were fine, shut up whining and accept he just got the shit punched out of him by a former light welter.

Maybe there were random tests?

Sergio's sloppy hands down mouth open style finally caught up to him.

Those bodyshots were killing him..

[cyclone]

Martinez was taken to Roosevelt Hospital in Manhattan following the fight and missed the post-fight press conference. An MRI revealed that Martinez suffered a broken nose, but his right knee and left hand, which had been damaged in his last fight in April of 2013, were fine, Lewkowicz said. DiBella said an additional CT Scan revealed "no abnormalities." Martinez was discharged at 5 a.m. on Sunday and traveled back home to Spain later in the day, Lewkowicz said.

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sp

So he had no knee injury then 0_o

phantom pain. proably not used to his new knees. im sorry, but I looked like his legs would give out after each punch

Phantom pain.....lol....that must be your nickname for Cotto

[ruthless rocco]

I'm re-watching the fight now and what I've noticed is that Martinez is never on his toes. Even in the first round he's on shifting his weight from the middle of his foot to the back of his heel. He's strangely awkward with his feet. He appears to be very mobile but if you look at Cotto he's always pushing off with his toes but Martinez is all middle of the foot and heel with almost no weight being put on the toes and by extension no weight being put on the knees. That explains why he was so easy to knock down. Your toes are your balance if you aren't using them then it's quite easy to knock you over.

After re-watching the Williams fights as well as the Cintron fight I can see that Martinez was up on his toes and using them for movement as well as for power when punching. That just isn't there in the Cotto fight. So there may not have been a point in the fight where Martinez injured his knee...infact there may not have been a new injury to his knee at all. But his behaviour in the Cotto fight suggests that he didn't have the same confidence in his abilities that he used to. He fought differently and he paid for it.

[Master]

Teddy Atlas said Cotto would win.

[ruthless rocco]

Teddy Atlas said Cotto would win.

The jinx is broken!!!! Hahaha....

[Gandalf]

I'm re-watching the fight now and what I've noticed is that Martinez is never on his toes. Even in the first round he's on shifting his weight from the middle of his foot to the back of his heel. He's strangely awkward with his feet. He appears to be very mobile but if you look at Cotto he's always pushing off with his toes but Martinez is all middle of the foot and heel with almost no weight being put on the toes and by extension no weight being put on the knees. That explains why he was so easy to knock down. Your toes are your balance if you aren't using them then it's quite easy to knock you over.

After re-watching the Williams fights as well as the Cintron fight I can see that Martinez was up on his toes and using them for movement as well as for power when punching. That just isn't there in the Cotto fight. So there may not have been a point in the fight where Martinez injured his knee...infact there may not have been a new injury to his knee at all. But his behaviour in the Cotto fight suggests that he didn't have the same confidence in his abilities that he used to. He fought differently and he paid for it.

Exactly. The injuries were old ones and many on both hands and knees, and certainly in terms of lower body activity, it was a seriously depleted Martinez. It was a shell of the fighter he was. With Ali it was brain and body not working in line towards the end, here it was the entire lower body of Martinez. Martinez is as sharp as ever mentally, but his body is gone.

[cyclone]

I'm re-watching the fight now and what I've noticed is that Martinez is never on his toes. Even in the first round he's on shifting his weight from the middle of his foot to the back of his heel. He's strangely awkward with his feet. He appears to be very mobile but if you look at Cotto he's always pushing off with his toes but Martinez is all middle of the foot and heel with almost no weight being put on the toes and by extension no weight being put on the knees. That explains why he was so easy to knock down. Your toes are your balance if you aren't using them then it's quite easy to knock you over.

After re-watching the Williams fights as well as the Cintron fight I can see that Martinez was up on his toes and using them for movement as well as for power when punching. That just isn't there in the Cotto fight. So there may not have been a point in the fight where Martinez injured his knee...infact there may not have been a new injury to his knee at all. But his behaviour in the Cotto fight suggests that he didn't have the same confidence in his abilities that he used to. He fought differently and he paid for it.

Exactly. The injuries were old ones and many on both hands and knees, and certainly in terms of lower body activity, it was a seriously depleted Martinez. It was a shell of the fighter he was. With Ali it was brain and body not working in line towards the end, here it was the entire lower body of Martinez. Martinez is as sharp as ever mentally, but his body is gone.

Sure...Sergio was depleted.

I bet if GG did that to Sergio you wouldn't be taking that depleted shit.

As a matter of fact you'd be all "I don't wanna' here shit about Martinez' knee...GG is just a beast"

Without a doubt.

[Gandalf]

I'm re-watching the fight now and what I've noticed is that Martinez is never on his toes. Even in the first round he's on shifting his weight from the middle of his foot to the back of his heel. He's strangely awkward with his feet. He appears to be very mobile but if you look at Cotto he's always pushing off with his toes but Martinez is all middle of the foot and heel with almost no weight being put on the toes and by extension no weight being put on the knees. That explains why he was so easy to knock down. Your toes are your balance if you aren't using them then it's quite easy to knock you over.

After re-watching the Williams fights as well as the Cintron fight I can see that Martinez was up on his toes and using them for movement as well as for power when punching. That just isn't there in the Cotto fight. So there may not have been a point in the fight where Martinez injured his knee...infact there may not have been a new injury to his knee at all. But his behaviour in the Cotto fight suggests that he didn't have the same confidence in his abilities that he used to. He fought differently and he paid for it.

Exactly. The injuries were old ones and many on both hands and knees, and certainly in terms of lower body activity, it was a seriously depleted Martinez. It was a shell of the fighter he was. With Ali it was brain and body not working in line towards the end, here it was the entire lower body of Martinez. Martinez is as sharp as ever mentally, but his body is gone.

Sure...Sergio was depleted.

I bet if GG did that to Sergio you wouldn't be taking that depleted shit.

As a matter of fact you'd be all "I don't wanna' here shit about Martinez' knee...GG is just a beast"

Without a doubt.

I've seen Cotto at his best. He didn't suddenly become immaculate on the Roach wonder camp against Martinez. Provodnikov today showed Roach for what he is, a man that seldom improves fighters. Cotto was the same Cotto and Martinez was shot from the waist down. That was the obvious difference.

Stick Cotto in against GG and see what happens. It will answer most of the questions.

[IamInuit]

I'm re-watching the fight now and what I've noticed is that Martinez is never on his toes. Even in the first round he's on shifting his weight from the middle of his foot to the back of his heel. He's strangely awkward with his feet. He appears to be very mobile but if you look at Cotto he's always pushing off with his toes but Martinez is all middle of the foot and heel with almost no weight being put on the toes and by extension no weight being put on the knees. That explains why he was so easy to knock down. Your toes are your balance if you aren't using them then it's quite easy to knock you over.

After re-watching the Williams fights as well as the Cintron fight I can see that Martinez was up on his toes and using them for movement as well as for power when punching. That just isn't there in the Cotto fight. So there may not have been a point in the fight where Martinez injured his knee...infact there may not have been a new injury to his knee at all. But his behaviour in the Cotto fight suggests that he didn't have the same confidence in his abilities that he used to. He fought differently and he paid for it.

Exactly. The injuries were old ones and many on both hands and knees, and certainly in terms of lower body activity, it was a seriously depleted Martinez. It was a shell of the fighter he was. With Ali it was brain and body not working in line towards the end, here it was the entire lower body of Martinez. Martinez is as sharp as ever mentally, but his body is gone.

Sure...Sergio was depleted.

I bet if GG did that to Sergio you wouldn't be taking that depleted shit.

As a matter of fact you'd be all "I don't wanna' here shit about Martinez' knee...GG is just a beast"

Without a doubt.

I've seen Cotto at his best. He didn't suddenly become immaculate on the Roach wonder camp against Martinez. Provodnikov today showed Roach for what he is, a man that seldom improves fighters. Cotto was the same Cotto and Martinez was shot from the waist down. That was the obvious difference.

Stick Cotto in against GG and see what happens. It will answer most of the questions.

This is just silly and somebody needs to kill the horse instead of beating it. Nobody is saying that Martinez was 100%. Had he been Cotto would have never taken the fight. That should be obvious to just about anyone. Martinez has been on the slide for more then two years. Barker broke his nose and was out boxing him until he gassed out.

Matinez's legs were starting to go long before his knee problems and if anything his new bionic knee actually preserved what career he had left. Now the fact of the matter is, he had no issues with the knee or anything else related and that's what he said after the fight. He then went to the hospital and they cleared him of any injury to his knee or hands. I'm not sure how many facts people need.

Its also ludicrous to suggest that Roach did nothing to improve him because Provo's 15 minutes of fame elapsed. George Benton couldn't train that plodder how to box but many myself included still took him to steamroll Algieri nonetheless.

Cotto won because he was the fresher fighter and had a trainer that knows southpaws. That was obvious also by the number of right hands Cotto landed. Cotto executed a perfect game plan and steered Martinez to his left the entire fight inside.

[cyclone]

I'm re-watching the fight now and what I've noticed is that Martinez is never on his toes. Even in the first round he's on shifting his weight from the middle of his foot to the back of his heel. He's strangely awkward with his feet. He appears to be very mobile but if you look at Cotto he's always pushing off with his toes but Martinez is all middle of the foot and heel with almost no weight being put on the toes and by extension no weight being put on the knees. That explains why he was so easy to knock down. Your toes are your balance if you aren't using them then it's quite easy to knock you over.

After re-watching the Williams fights as well as the Cintron fight I can see that Martinez was up on his toes and using them for movement as well as for power when punching. That just isn't there in the Cotto fight. So there may not have been a point in the fight where Martinez injured his knee...infact there may not have been a new injury to his knee at all. But his behaviour in the Cotto fight suggests that he didn't have the same confidence in his abilities that he used to. He fought differently and he paid for it.

Sergio was getting caught clean against Williams and Cintron...don't let the KO's cause you to forget.

Cintron is one of the slowest fighters ever and even he was finding Martinez.

Cotto is just such a step up from the guys Sergio has been fighting and he wasn't able to overcome the learning curve.