Wladimir Klitschko's Resume

[Bo-Bo24]

He's done all he can do in a less than competetive era but its his longevity makes him an all time great for me. Staying at the top is a great accomplishment. Everyone knows his weakness is a chin, well no ones really managed to outbox him and land on it for about a decade now. Sure some of his voluntary defences have been poor but if he beats the latest crop of heavyweights (Wilder, Fury, Pulev) then I'll forgive him for it.

[Mr140]

Listen Tyson's era was almost as weak as this one just a tad better and he ended up losing to fucking Buster Douglas. Bryde had a pretty good wins at hw and was champ for good amount of time. Wlad wins over Haye, Peter, Thompson and Chageave are legit i fell not best but better then some eras.

[powerpuncher]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

[ninjaspy3]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

After reading this it made me want to go back and watch the Wlad - Sanders fight. Ironically, the first time Sanders dropped Wlad, it was while Wlad was attempting to hold him. Haha I think Wlad may have improved his holding technique a bit since then though.


On a side note, it was sort of odd seing Wlad fight in that style/stance. He doesn't use that style anymore, but it was sort of fun to watch.

[El Kabong]

After reading this it made me want to go back and watch the Wlad - Sanders fight. Ironically, the first time Sanders dropped Wlad, it was while Wlad was attempting to hold him. Haha I think Wlad may have improved his holding technique a bit since then though.


On a side note, it was sort of odd seing Wlad fight in that style/stance. He doesn't use that style anymore, but it was sort of fun to watch.

Wladimir's style used to be nothing but offense look at his fight vs Ray Mercer, look at his fight vs Monte Barrett. He threw a TON of punches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAKJx5jArVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqCw-wPE1k


There's no way he could have continued fighting in that style just because he was throwing pressure fighter amounts of punches

[ykdadamaja]

After reading this it made me want to go back and watch the Wlad - Sanders fight. Ironically, the first time Sanders dropped Wlad, it was while Wlad was attempting to hold him. Haha I think Wlad may have improved his holding technique a bit since then though.


On a side note, it was sort of odd seing Wlad fight in that style/stance. He doesn't use that style anymore, but it was sort of fun to watch.

Wladimir's style used to be nothing but offense look at his fight vs Ray Mercer, look at his fight vs Monte Barrett. He threw a TON of punches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAKJx5jArVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqCw-wPE1k


There's no way he could have continued fighting in that style just because he was throwing pressure fighter amounts of punches

Mercer was old and slow and Barrett was a punching bag for all of his career.

[BIG H]

Again, this is not Wlad's fault, but I ask the question is there one single name on his resume that the top 25 HWs of all time would not also have beaten? Really think about it objectively!

[El Kabong]

After reading this it made me want to go back and watch the Wlad - Sanders fight. Ironically, the first time Sanders dropped Wlad, it was while Wlad was attempting to hold him. Haha I think Wlad may have improved his holding technique a bit since then though.


On a side note, it was sort of odd seing Wlad fight in that style/stance. He doesn't use that style anymore, but it was sort of fun to watch.

Wladimir's style used to be nothing but offense look at his fight vs Ray Mercer, look at his fight vs Monte Barrett. He threw a TON of punches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAKJx5jArVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqCw-wPE1k


There's no way he could have continued fighting in that style just because he was throwing pressure fighter amounts of punches

Mercer was old and slow and Barrett was a punching bag for all of his career.

YK I hope your post was followed by a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head because that is one of the DUMBEST things I've ever read.

[erics44]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

wlads boring style has everything to do with his success


he is boring because he holds


holding is against the rules


I don't think there has ever been a champion of any weight that holds and breaks the rules even a fraction as much as the extreme amounts that wlad does

[Freedom]

[powerpuncher]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

wlads boring style has everything to do with his success


he is boring because he holds


holding is against the rules


I don't think there has ever been a champion of any weight that holds and breaks the rules even a fraction as much as the extreme amounts that wlad does

wait what?!?! i thought that it was ward who cheated the most. get your stories straight!

[Nameless]

Wlad was perhaps not in the best era of them all but at some point, it's not that much that the era was that crap, it's that Wlad was also that good compared to the others. He'll go down as one of the ATG and his place will be quite legitimate IMO.

[cyclone]

Wlad was perhaps not in the best era of them all but at some point, it's not that much that the era was that crap, it's that Wlad was also that good compared to the others. He'll go down as one of the ATG and his place will be quite legitimate IMO.

this era is crap...no need to deny it.

Calling him an ATG is not legitimate on any level...I'm sure you know this.
He's fought in the weakest era EVER and still managed to get himself KTFO.

Joe Louis had a bum of the month TOUR.

Vlad had a bum of the month CAREER and still got blasted.

[erics44]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

wlads boring style has everything to do with his success


he is boring because he holds


holding is against the rules


I don't think there has ever been a champion of any weight that holds and breaks the rules even a fraction as much as the extreme amounts that wlad does

wait what?!?! i thought that it was ward who cheated the most. get your stories straight!

I didn't say that


and no ward doesn't cheat the most


wlads cheating is horrendously extreme and blatant


ward fights within the rules, his holding is more grappling and spoiling, which you cant punish


hes never gonna make any big money fighting that way tho, despite how good he is