Wladimir Klitschko's Resume

[powerpuncher]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

wlads boring style has everything to do with his success


he is boring because he holds


holding is against the rules


I don't think there has ever been a champion of any weight that holds and breaks the rules even a fraction as much as the extreme amounts that wlad does

wait what?!?! i thought that it was ward who cheated the most. get your stories straight!

[Nameless]

Wlad was perhaps not in the best era of them all but at some point, it's not that much that the era was that crap, it's that Wlad was also that good compared to the others. He'll go down as one of the ATG and his place will be quite legitimate IMO.

[cyclone]

Wlad was perhaps not in the best era of them all but at some point, it's not that much that the era was that crap, it's that Wlad was also that good compared to the others. He'll go down as one of the ATG and his place will be quite legitimate IMO.

this era is crap...no need to deny it.

Calling him an ATG is not legitimate on any level...I'm sure you know this.
He's fought in the weakest era EVER and still managed to get himself KTFO.

Joe Louis had a bum of the month TOUR.

Vlad had a bum of the month CAREER and still got blasted.

[Violent Demise]

Wlad was perhaps not in the best era of them all but at some point, it's not that much that the era was that crap, it's that Wlad was also that good compared to the others. He'll go down as one of the ATG and his place will be quite legitimate IMO.

this era is crap...no need to deny it.

Calling him an ATG is not legitimate on any level...I'm sure you know this.
He's fought in the weakest era EVER and still managed to get himself KTFO.

Joe Louis had a bum of the month TOUR.

Vlad had a bum of the month CAREER and still got blasted.

You know who else has a bum of the month career so far? Gary Russell. Remember him? The fighter you were giving virtual bj's to on a daily basis. Only to abandon him like a coward when he got dealt with, without much trouble.

[cyclone]

Violent_Demise

We talking about heavyweights here sorry mexican...take your little ass to another thread bitch.

Talking shit about Russell Jr won't pull mexican boxing out of the toilet.

[TitoFan]

Violent_Demise

We talking about heavyweights here sorry mexican...take your little ass to another thread bitch.

Talking shit about Russell Jr won't pull mexican boxing out of the toilet.

Aww... don't be too hard on the poor bastard.
He's got enough problems with his fascination for blowjobs (giving them, that is).

[cyclone]

Violent_Demise

We talking about heavyweights here sorry mexican...take your little ass to another thread bitch.

Talking shit about Russell Jr won't pull mexican boxing out of the toilet.

Aww... don't be too hard on the poor bastard.
He's got enough problems with his fascination for blowjobs (giving them, that is).

He has a hard enough time learning to flush a damn toilet.

[Silkeyjoe]

Violent_Demise

We talking about heavyweights here sorry mexican...take your little ass to another thread bitch.

Talking shit about Russell Jr won't pull mexican boxing out of the toilet.

Strange that everytime someone mentions Lomachenko or Crawford you bring up GGG. But thats allowed eh?

[Violent Demise]

Violent_Demise

We talking about heavyweights here sorry mexican...take your little ass to another thread bitch.

Talking shit about Russell Jr won't pull mexican boxing out of the toilet.

What thread you want me to go back to? Is it the one where you swore Russell was gonna destroy Lomachecko, only to get own worse than his ancestors did back in the day?

[cyclone]

Violent_Demise

We talking about heavyweights here sorry mexican...take your little ass to another thread bitch.

Talking shit about Russell Jr won't pull mexican boxing out of the toilet.

What thread you want me to go back to? Is it the one where you swore Russell was gonna destroy Lomachecko, only to get own worse than his ancestors did back in the day?

You mexicans are getting owned today....MOST of the sex-slaves and SCABS in the US are mexican

If not for my ancestors your oily little ass wouldn't have a 14th amendment to ride on...sorry motherfucker.

[erics44]

i agree that its not wlads fault that the division is so bad, but he proved that he wasnt that great before the division turned into the worst HW era in history. he wasnt dominant until the earlier generation of HWs retired or at least fell into obscurity. my question is how much did steward help him? honestly, wlad was pretty good before he got steward as a trainer but i believe that after he got him as a trainer, his level of opposition also went down. so im not sure how much of his success since then has been a new trainer and how much was the level of opposition which made him look good.

and also like i always say, anybody who brings up his style being boring needs to stop. that has no relevance on how good he is or will be. if he is good, his excitement doesnt matter. wlads tactics mainly work because his opposition is so bad. like ive mentioned in another thread, fighters usually allow their opponent to hold. just watch corrie sanders. when wlad tried to grab him sanders just pushed him and kept swinging.

wlads boring style has everything to do with his success


he is boring because he holds


holding is against the rules


I don't think there has ever been a champion of any weight that holds and breaks the rules even a fraction as much as the extreme amounts that wlad does

wait what?!?! i thought that it was ward who cheated the most. get your stories straight!

I didn't say that


and no ward doesn't cheat the most


wlads cheating is horrendously extreme and blatant


ward fights within the rules, his holding is more grappling and spoiling, which you cant punish


hes never gonna make any big money fighting that way tho, despite how good he is