Official Thread: Canelo Alvarez-Erislandy Lara

[Maravilla2012]

even the guy i bet with called me and told me even he thought Canelo lost. then precced to ask me when id pay him

[Spicoli]

Alvarez indeed won, but he is the guy who takes his foot off the gas. Lara simply did what Lara has always done ala Molina (just as close). If anyone thinks that was a full effort to impress and dictate terms by a kid or golden boy who needed it, god help em.

[Gandalf]

LEVI MARTINEZ you should apply for a job at the Federal Reserve. 117-111? Insanity.

Nah. If you gave me 100 bucks I could write up a detailed, persuasive account of why each guy should have won that fight 117-111.

There were almost zero dominant rounds. Alvarez won (and it wasn't by any means a robbery) without landing a single meaningful head shot.

I had it undeniably 3-0 Lara after 3. Then I scored the fourth for Canelo. Thereafter I was obstructed by technical issues, but judged the rounds as fairly as the means could merit. I definitely saw Canelo come on in the middle rounds, but Lara came back strongly. Not in a million years could I ever see a case for 117-111 unless it was a White House spokesperson or the North Korean national press. I think most people can make at least a case for a close fight, but I saw 6 rounds that were relatively easy to score in Lara's favour. Now if he didn't win any other rounds, then fine, a draw, or if you are against me, a close Canelo win, but no sane person would ever produce 117-111. That is Federal Reserve behavior. Martinez should go into banking where he can work for not just one dildo crazed cokehead, but a whole plethora of them.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm not seeing a problem with an Alvarez win.

Funny. The vast majority of people are.


Check social media.

Don't do it. Antisocial personality disorder. At least one.

Wouldn'y know where to start looking for this social media thign.

[ElTerribleMorales]

LEVI MARTINEZ you should apply for a job at the Federal Reserve. 117-111? Insanity.

Nah. If you gave me 100 bucks I could write up a detailed, persuasive account of why each guy should have won that fight 117-111.

There were almost zero dominant rounds. Alvarez won (and it wasn't by any means a robbery) without landing a single meaningful head shot.

Correction: There was not one single dominant round in that fight.

If we're stretching it (and I would demand more money for this), I could argue 120-108 for either guy.

Very tough fight to score.

Lara DOMINATED the first 3 and then clearly won the 5th, and IMO the 8th, that's 5 rounds in his favor, so how the hell could he be down 6 points?

[Violent Demise]

Cotto moves better than Lara, and has better offense, he'd outbox the fuck out the ginger

Than make the fucking fight. He's had 3 chances to fight Alvarez. But hasn't.

[IamInuit]

LEVI MARTINEZ you should apply for a job at the Federal Reserve. 117-111? Insanity.

Nah. If you gave me 100 bucks I could write up a detailed, persuasive account of why each guy should have won that fight 117-111.

There were almost zero dominant rounds. Alvarez won (and it wasn't by any means a robbery) without landing a single meaningful head shot.

And I could do the same for a one point fight so it comes down to reason. Its not reasonable to score that fight 117/111 in any way shape or form based on a 10 point must system. I thought Lara won by a point or two and would have settled for a draw or a close split either way but once again the Martinez card stinks of a rubber stamp. Someone may be able to attempt an explanation as to why it was a 117/111 fight but it wouldn't be rational.

[OumaFan]

120-108 was me being kind of facetious, but Lara didn't dominate a single round. Lara himself wouldn't say he dominated a single round. Well, yes he would, but he would be utterly full of shit. Or have no idea what the word dominate means.

I was rooting for him fully, but he was too defensive. He can have no complaints (he'll complain).

He could have gotten off first, thrown two or three punches once Canelo got set, and then turned him. But he was too defensive, and the most meaningful punches of the fight were Canelo body shots.

[Gandalf]

LEVI MARTINEZ you should apply for a job at the Federal Reserve. 117-111? Insanity.

Nah. If you gave me 100 bucks I could write up a detailed, persuasive account of why each guy should have won that fight 117-111.

There were almost zero dominant rounds. Alvarez won (and it wasn't by any means a robbery) without landing a single meaningful head shot.

Correction: There was not one single dominant round in that fight.

If we're stretching it (and I would demand more money for this), I could argue 120-108 for either guy.

Very tough fight to score.

Lara DOMINATED the first 3 and then clearly won the 5th, and IMO the 8th, that's 5 rounds in his favor, so how the hell could he be down 6 points?

Exactly. I have no issues with 2 of the cards, but that final card in particular is beyond any redemption. 117-111 did not happen and I assume most views will reflect that. Close fight perhaps, but to score a one sided fight? That is just gibberish. Too much of the Oscar powder methinks.

[Gandalf]

120-108 was me being kind of facetious, but Lara didn't dominate a single round. Lara himself wouldn't say he dominated a single round. Well, yes he would, but he would be utterly full of shit. Or have no idea what the word dominate means.

I was rooting for him fully, but he was too defensive. He can have no complaints (he'll complain).

He could have gotten off first, thrown two or three punches once Canelo got set, and then turned him. But he was too defensive, and the most meaningful punches of the fight were Canelo body shots.

How did you score the first 3 rounds?

[OumaFan]

LEVI MARTINEZ you should apply for a job at the Federal Reserve. 117-111? Insanity.

Nah. If you gave me 100 bucks I could write up a detailed, persuasive account of why each guy should have won that fight 117-111.

There were almost zero dominant rounds. Alvarez won (and it wasn't by any means a robbery) without landing a single meaningful head shot.

Correction: There was not one single dominant round in that fight.

If we're stretching it (and I would demand more money for this), I could argue 120-108 for either guy.

Very tough fight to score.

Lara DOMINATED the first 3 and then clearly won the 5th, and IMO the 8th, that's 5 rounds in his favor, so how the hell could he be down 6 points?

I'm just quoting this to point out that someone thought that Lara DOMINATED the first 3 rounds. What in the holy fuck?

[OumaFan]

120-108 was me being kind of facetious, but Lara didn't dominate a single round. Lara himself wouldn't say he dominated a single round. Well, yes he would, but he would be utterly full of shit. Or have no idea what the word dominate means.

I was rooting for him fully, but he was too defensive. He can have no complaints (he'll complain).

He could have gotten off first, thrown two or three punches once Canelo got set, and then turned him. But he was too defensive, and the most meaningful punches of the fight were Canelo body shots.

How did you score the first 3 rounds?

I gave the first three to Lara, but again I was rooting for him, like "stylists" and kind of have an irrational dislike for Canelo. He clearly came nowhere near to dominating those rounds He barely landed anything meaningful whatsoever.

[Violent Demise]

LEVI MARTINEZ you should apply for a job at the Federal Reserve. 117-111? Insanity.

Nah. If you gave me 100 bucks I could write up a detailed, persuasive account of why each guy should have won that fight 117-111.

There were almost zero dominant rounds. Alvarez won (and it wasn't by any means a robbery) without landing a single meaningful head shot.

Correction: There was not one single dominant round in that fight.

If we're stretching it (and I would demand more money for this), I could argue 120-108 for either guy.

Very tough fight to score.

Lara DOMINATED the first 3 and then clearly won the 5th, and IMO the 8th, that's 5 rounds in his favor, so how the hell could he be down 6 points?

I'm just quoting this to point out that someone thought that Lara DOMINATED the first 3 rounds. What in the holy fuck?

Some people just can't score or are just plain stupid. I say both in this case

[Gandalf]

120-108 was me being kind of facetious, but Lara didn't dominate a single round. Lara himself wouldn't say he dominated a single round. Well, yes he would, but he would be utterly full of shit. Or have no idea what the word dominate means.

I was rooting for him fully, but he was too defensive. He can have no complaints (he'll complain).

He could have gotten off first, thrown two or three punches once Canelo got set, and then turned him. But he was too defensive, and the most meaningful punches of the fight were Canelo body shots.

How did you score the first 3 rounds?

I gave the first three to Lara, but again I was rooting for him, like "stylists" and kind of have an irrational dislike for Canelo. He clearly came nowhere near to dominating those rounds He barely landed anything meaningful whatsoever.

No, it wasn't domination, just the calculated picking off of a come forward fighter. Still that's 3 that we both agree on from the off. I'm sure there will be other rounds we agree on too, though I will need to watch them properly again due to stream chop. If you scored Lara the first 3 and then went to sleep, then for sure 117-111 Alvarez might make more sense. Most would agree it was close and a case can be made either way.

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