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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    To stardom? Depends what your definition of that is. I can't think of any that have become superstars at the level of mayweather, Pac, de la hoya, rjj etc. There have definitely been Europeans that have reached pretty high levels of stardom here in the US but not superstardom that I can think of. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    To stardom? Depends what your definition of that is. I can't think of any that have become superstars at the level of mayweather, Pac, de la hoya, rjj etc. There have definitely been Europeans that have reached pretty high levels of stardom here in the US but not superstardom that I can think of. Maybe I'm wrong though.
    What (other) Americans do you have that have reached the level of "superstardom" of Mayweather and De La Hoya?



    Jones was never that big. In fact Mayweather wasn't always that big either. His first Pay per view wasn't until Gatti and they needed Gattis name to sell that!

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    To be honest does it really mater, Calzaghe was a great fighter, you fight were you want
    if you don't like to travel outside your Country so what.!!!
    Remember the Klits make big money in Europe, they don't need America,! to be honest in
    America it's like a circus, you have to sell and hype yourself up.
    In Europe fighters are making good money, Hopkins would not dream of fighting in Europe,
    I mean he may not get one of his loved up referee, to help him out.

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    America at one time ruled pro boxing, but not so much now, things change the out look
    change, Look at Froch V Groves fight, how many people attended that fight, would you get
    that in the states theses days.!!

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    Lennox Lewis. As Ross said.
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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?

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    The one who eventually became the most loved and accepted as a star everywhere, was probably Kostya and thats amazing when you think of the Russian US rivalry and how hard headed some old people were over it as he headed into the pro circuit ,that proved boxing stood alone on such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?
    Even a log of shit will draw flies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?
    I could give you a list as long as my arm, but that's not what this thread is supposed to be about, right?

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Only a few fighters ever achieve star status and by that you could define as having mainstream mass appeal and PPV sales, even Americans. Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage. They are few and far between.
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    Most European fighters are the shits, the best come from North America. That's what's up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Most European fighters are the shits, the best come from North America. That's what's up.
    Feeling a little constipated, aren't you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Most European fighters are the shits, the best come from North America. That's what's up.
    Feeling a little constipated, aren't you!
    Unlike Europe, which has been churning out tons of shit forever.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    To stardom? Depends what your definition of that is. I can't think of any that have become superstars at the level of mayweather, Pac, de la hoya, rjj etc. There have definitely been Europeans that have reached pretty high levels of stardom here in the US but not superstardom that I can think of. Maybe I'm wrong though.
    What (other) Americans do you have that have reached the level of "superstardom" of Mayweather and De La Hoya?



    Jones was never that big. In fact Mayweather wasn't always that big either. His first Pay per view wasn't until Gatti and they needed Gattis name to sell that!
    I agree which is kind of my point. No European has gotten to that level but most fighters haven't either.

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